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was actually you know I don't know if the elitist is the right word but you know um knew the very best performances and knew the artists that she thought
were the most interesting, including contemporary ones. I mean, because of both their interests, we listen to a lot of John Cage and Morton Sabotnik and uh
European electronic music. Um uh you know, and then my um I was just
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