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the U.S. Constitution had that brilliant idea of "separating church from state.” And what happened in America was, before they did that, there wasn't competition. Once they did do that, it changed dramatically.
The Methodists, for instance, converted around an eighth of the country within a generation, because they were able to get out there. Their people who were Methodist ministers
were not pushed to -- they didn't rely on establishment to keep pushing them up.
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