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so it wasn't shaped directly by evolution, but it's more of a sort of individual discovery that we all make. One of the forces behind perversity that I find particularly interesting is what I
call hopeful monster theory. And hopeful monster is a phrase um used to explain an evolutionary theory by this guy a long time ago named Goldmid. And Goldman understood that the logic of natural
selection is you have these animals and they and you know and and they reproduce and you get this very very slight variation and then the variants that do better uh uh give rise to more
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