Travel Noire Experiences, they're small group experiences.
And so Travel Noire started out as an editorial site.
that Travel Noire didn't make any money.
I started Travel Noire while I still had my full-time job.
So I started Travel Noire in 2013.
I started Travel Noire and I didn't quit until-- well, I got fired.
So Travel Noire is doing pretty good.
And so the idea for Travel Noire was born there.
And so it's kind of-- Travel Noire kind of started out of that.
So that's what Travel Noire is.
And so I think the Travel Noire mission kind of came out of that.
So I would work on Travel Noire from 6:00 AM to 9:00 AM, go to work from 9:00 to 5:00, and then work on Travel Noire
one of his houses in Pointe-Noire .
But tell us a little bit about what Travel Noire actually is, what it does, and who your target audience is.
So started Travel Noire in 2013.
I remember I was first starting the Travel Noire Instagram account.
And I think that-- so when I first started Travel Noire , I had a team.
I learned other peoples' travels through that Travel Noire .
But I want people who come into the Travel Noire team to also feel like they are welcoming their weird.
I got my job in 20-- I started Travel Noire two months after I got my job.
And so I think that the mission of Travel Noire came out of that.
So each country has its own sort of bete noire , as far as tourists.
Paolo Woods: Here we're on the beach of Pointe-Noire in Congo.
It was an eight-hour jeep ride from Pointe-Noire .
et faire une boîte, une boîte noire impossible à réparer », au contraire on va partager les plans et permettre d'améliorer les machines
I am also a huge Travel Noire fan.
Elles sont rejetées aussi du fait de leur appartenance, à la race noire .
Mais on voit resurgir cette fable, qui dit que la race noire est condamnée à servir, la descendance des autres races.
And being an intern at that startup company was what kind of fine-tuned this idea that I had for Travel Noire .
We started doing a lot of free things, And Then we launched Travel Noire Experiences in July of 2015.
Like We have all of these different things that we do to make it easy to work for Travel Noire .
I didn't quit the job, and then start Travel Noire .
First of all, I would like to know what's next for Travel Noire ?
And it sounds like you chose the failure option when it came to what the Nigerian parents wanted, which is-- hence you founding Travel Noire .
So just to pick up on your point around needing to have other people to talk to, who have your mentors been over your journey with Travel Noire .
In fact, people, when they tell me they've heard of Travel Noire , the first place that they say that they've heard of Travel Noire is Instagram.
So I was just wondering, using what you know now, what would you have told yourself when you first decided to start Travel Noire ?
And then when I got my full-time job as a producer in San Francisco, and I started Travel Noire , I did those two jobs simultaneously.
Serge Michel: So we see here, Phillip -- he was just on the picture before on the logs in the harbor of Pointe-Noire .