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think I'm thinking of like of Georgia Maloney, the leader of Italy, and she's quite close to Trump. I mean, we're talking about Kama being the Trump
whisperer. Maybe Maloney's got a bigger claim to that really, but she's to like her a lot. >> Yeah. But she's also a super assertive
Italian leader that talks a lot about Italy's own national interest. So we're talking about the rise of kind of populism. You have to remember that
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