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Jonathan Rosenberg: So, if we just shift to another subject I know you're interested in, after you retired in 2005, you ran for political office. Or suggested it--
Madoff's world. So, we have to take more risk. We have to recognize that risk and mistakes, they're inevitable for those who want to make progress. So, it's another, it's a very long
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