How to pronounce“that”in English

culture is about going out and raising money and the more it just happens and it sort of feeds on itself um if the Venture capitalists weren't therethere'd be a lot of empty companies that wouldn't be there uh and thatd probably I think probably be better not in every case but in most cases I think it'sbetter when you are forced as an entrepreneur to bootstrap and here's the fundamental reason why if you have two companies one that's bootstrapped one