And especially in Swaziland , Christianity was obviously deposited there colonially, right?
We worked in Swaziland for six months, and, after that, we decided, well, that wasn't bad.
I'm going to Swaziland tomorrow, Sunday.
I'm a citizen of Swaziland , but I've spent a lot of time in the US and the UK.
I'm going to start with Swaziland Pride.
I was in a hotel in Swaziland .
So the journey from San Francisco to Swaziland is about as far as you can go on earth.
I had an experience that way in Swaziland .
I have the privilege to be there myself for Swaziland Pride.
Yeah, so for Swaziland , we, effectively, through our membership around the world, we funded it.
It told the story of a number of LGBTQ individuals in Swaziland , their personal journeys, and how important pride would
Obviously, move to Swaziland and work with poor people and work for a nonprofit.
near Manzini, Swaziland .
So, in Swaziland , I worked mostly with small businesses, trying to help them create jobs, create economic opportunity.
We also worked on the business plan competition in Swaziland .
And he said he really thanked God for sending TechnoServe to Swaziland and us included.
And so, in Swaziland , I was primarily working with small businesses.
For those who don't know, Swaziland is a tiny country.
And we believe that the ramifications of this will go way beyond Swaziland , that it will go across the continent.
It was a massive contrast to the joy and liberation and agency we saw in Swaziland .
for our frontline partners, like in Swaziland .
I was very excited that we were able to establish Junior Achievement of Swaziland , and we piloted our first class
As Megan and Rick referred to, Swaziland helps-- or TechnoServe with agricultural value chains.
How do you see-- and I actually don't know when you were in Swaziland -- but how do you see technology?
And the reason is because I'm originally from a small country in Southern Africa called Swaziland .
And so when our partners from Swaziland came to us over a year ago with the incredibly kind of audacious idea of running pride in Swaziland ,
So when some people ask, how did you choose Swaziland ?
And so, however, it's Swaziland 's only airport, so by definition it's an international airport.
Rick and I were able to finish projects while we were in our six months in Swaziland .
And so, he was very thankful that we had come to TechnoServe and had come to Swaziland and that TechnoServe
So I know recently, you had, in the same weekend, Swaziland Pride and Istanbul Pride.
An average gift of just $19 came together to enable all of the security, the logistics, everything that was needed to run this first ever pride in Swaziland .
And they were able to launch this petition, which started to impact on the popular discussion within Swaziland .
But once we set off to walk probably 200 or 300 meters through the city of Mbabane, the capital of Swaziland ,
So I guess what I'm actually trying to understand is how do you think about the anti-LGBT forces that exist in places like Swaziland
Really excited to have Rick and Wendy Walleigh here to talk about their book, "From Silicon Valley to Swaziland ," and to talk a little bit, also, about the value and promise
For example, did you know that, in Swaziland , the traditional bride price that a new husband would
And within less than 48 hours, we got a contact from the Swaziland country director,
We were not quite ready, but, within a month, we were living in Swaziland .
Wendy worked primarily to start up a youth program, which turned out to be Junior Achievement of Swaziland .
Most of these are-- well, first of all, let's start with, for those not familiar with where the heck Swaziland is-- as you can see,
Sometimes they help the farmers, and sometimes they help people like this, which is Eswatini Kitchens in Swaziland .
And yet, they're able to get fair trade certified and are selling in Sweden, and Germany, in South Africa, and Swaziland .
But, in the sense that business development, to be sustainable, of course, you need to make money to have these savings, and I'm just curious if in Swaziland you kind of
you, what skills you were able to gain there, how that specifically allowed you to help in Swaziland -- sort of the application of that.
raised her hand and said, well, I came tonight, because I had been in Swaziland after you left.