How to pronounce“reformism”in English

for I think you can talk about reformism in two senses one is it's clear that when I developed this theory in the late 1970s I was trying to reform the way

psychologists and other people think about intelligence so certainly I had an iconic clastic or reformist uh inclination there and I was kind of

psychologists and other people think about intelligence so certainly I had an iconic clastic or reformist uh inclination there and I was kind of