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Is that incidental to what's happening?racist doesn't. Uh, and that is what the
that you have said are too offensive and that you have not apologized for them.Racist thing, anti-Semitic things, sexist things. I wanted to start with some of those statements that get quoted a lot. I know that some of which theyquoted were not taken in context, but a couple others seemed as if there were some merit to them. So, I'm going to
Professor Kennedy is the author of The Black Campus Movement, which one the W. E. B. Du Bois Book prize and stamped from the beginning. The Definitive History ofRacist Ideas in America, which won the National Book Award for nonfiction in 2016. His third book, How to Be an Anti Racist, was a number one New York Times bestseller andmade several best books of 2019 lists is much anticipated. Fourth book with Jason Reynolds stamped Racism,
Anti Racism and You Was a Number one on The New York Times best seller list. And his first board book, AntiRacist Baby, was published just last month and was a number one indie bestseller. Professor Kennedy Thank you so much for being here today. Oh, you're welcome. I'm I'mexcited. Thio be in conversation with you?
you've done a an approach you've espoused rather than who you are. We can change our behavior to be anti racist exactly, and and being antiracist and even the term anti racist, like the term racist, these air verbs. You know, this is about what you're doing. This is about what you're being. Um, this isn'ta sort of, uh, this isn't about what's in someone's bones or what's in someone's hard. This is what's in someone's words and what's in what's in someone's actions.
then what's gonna happen? We're not gonna be able to see the racial disparities. And then if we can't see the racial disparities, how can we even begin to see theracist policies? And so then we're gonna have racial disparities all around us that we can't even see, let alone the causes of those disparities. And so what'sgonna happen to those disparities in the policy causes they're going to continue? And and really, that is the final solution. The final solution is having
targeted people and because dismissing the problem is in fact part of the problemracist okay okay so being for actual equality and not naring my focus to a particular group of people makes meracist would you go to a St Patrick's Day Parade waving the British flag of would you PR prostate cancer research at
racist okay okay so being for actual equality and not naring my focus to a particular group of people makes meracist would you go to a St Patrick's Day Parade waving the British flag of would you PR prostate cancer research ata breast cancer walk no you ever watched a special Olympic that think they really ought to have honary medals for Able
say you know if I say our criminal justice system is you know structurallyracist do you support fixing that uh you can have a meaningful conversation with people so I think some of this is justabout the rhetoric now I can't expect everybody to take the time to learn here's the perfect you know way in 140
us and used used uh very sexist and vulgar and anti-gay epithets and someracist epithets against us and physically attacked us my uh spouse wentto the hospital with uh blood coming down her eye we both went to the
This is the ultimate fear of every suburbanite, right? My mom, "Oh, my God. The Libyans are coming to kill us." So where, and again, I have a whole chapter on how this is so wildlyracist and everything. But where does he flee? Where does this teenager flee? Where do, when parents bring their kids to watch this movie, where are they so relieved that their child is? That Marty McFly fleesinto?
actually next question so I know hereracist seems like a big thing and yeah an American I was really disappointed
And my father literally played himself, really, was the SCASGET scarsgot son-in-law of Warren Mitchell who was the working classracist, East End, opinionated person in the family.And this was very much cutting edge at the time.
Sexiste, donc vraiment la discrimination de genre.Raciste,C'est pour cela que ça nait principalement, chez les femmes africaines, américaines, aux États-Unis, et sociale.
In fact, that's not true.Racists and nationalists co-opted the skinhead subculture And took it as their own.So in the mid-80s, '85, an individual named Clark Martell took this racist skinhead scene
Well, within a couple of years, I was like, wait a second, Iowa is not so white.being racist or anti-racist.
Sure, So typically, people say I am not racist when someone challenges something that they said or did. Eyesbeing racist And um, by contrast, to be anti racist, is to have the willingness to admit and acknowledge andeven recognize the times in which we as individuals, of being racist when certainly the ways in which our society is racist. And so for me, the heartbeat of racism is
Yeah, you talked. I've heard you another interview say it's like growing up in a racist society or a societywith racist tendency is like being caught in a rainstorm, and someone suddenly brings you an umbrella and tells you here, take this so that you don't continue to get wet.And not only did you not realize you were wet because it's all you've ever known. Sometimes you can question even taking the help because it changes the norm that
United States is to be raised to be racist, and to be raised to be Racists is to be raised to almost be addictedto racist ideas. And then, at some point, you're gonna over we're gonna recognize your addiction is gonna take some time. Obviously, if anyone's addicted to a substance,everyone's telling them they're addicted to that substance. But it takes them a long time to realize that.
And so now I've got to make sure that 50% of them don't drop out and that college universities have as broken, sexist,and racist structures-- I'm sure some of the women in this room that have gone through them before know exactly what I'mtalking about, as do companies.
But my father denied that the bullying had ever happened.The racist seemed quite crazy.But I believed him.
It was particularly bad in my race.blatantly racist, all these things.
be racist uh and we have a great uh uh panel uh to discuss this with Van who I
either racist or you're anti-racist you're either sexist or you're anti-sexist you're either a bigot or you're an anti-b bigot so people got
of racist violence, where hundreds of people are killed in East St. Louis and other places as a response, as white rage.
anti-racist, in anti-racist movements.
be racist or inequitable and trying to create a fair way to have population control.
The racist is forever seeing me and defining me by the color of my skin.
constructed racist exercise that I've done which is like lump all the black people in my life into one comic strip kind of segregate them and then you know
Everybody's a racist and a sexist and a homophobe and a transphobe.
That just sounds racist.
And these racist stereotypes made their way into the American Western movie.
She's extra racist. I was like, there wasn't even a written thing.
say some racist stuff, even on social networks.
Because Mexico's super racist-- super racist-- and classist.
You had anti-racist activism.
But to address racist ideas come from unaddressed racism,
about their race as being white against the backdrop of almostconnecting it with being racist, right?That fear of talking about who they are because of the connection it has to Black and Brown communities, and how the whole diversity inclusion and race
Well, within a couple of years, I was like, wait a second, Iowa is not so white.We're an anti-racist committed family.
Well, within a couple of years, I was like, wait a second, Iowa is not so white.We're living in racist structures-- all of us, not just white folks, all of us, right?
Well, within a couple of years, I was like, wait a second, Iowa is not so white.There's no non-racist space.
idea that racist people were stupid on, actually, because in my particular case, my mother's white family are hugely well educated family. None of our brothers went
of humans and we have to recognize that people have the capacity to change and we have to recognize that whenwe are expressing racist ideas were being racist. But in the very next moment, we can confess and recognize and change those ideas and be anti racist.Yeah, I think that's really important. I feel like it reminds me of Burn a Brown. And I know you recently did a
and and and and brings you an umbrella, you don't think there's any problem because you've been taught to look out at this society and and and and to believe thatyou're racist ideas about what's wrong with a particular racial group are based in science, are based in logic, are the norm or truth or reality, Um, and andand then to thereby deny that those ideas are indeed racist and and and so I think that that's really what it is for.
Well, what if I don't have running water? Or what if I don't feel comfortable in Flint, Michigan, you know, washing my hands right? And and and And so you know, allthe while it was racist policies that was behind these disparities. And but still, to this day, it seemslike most Americans are just simply chalking it up to either black irresponsibility or pre existing conditions.
And you have liberals who make the case well. The only conservatives, the only only the conservatives are racist justice. You have conservatives who believeonly those liberals are racist when indeed that both in certain ways, being racist.So right now, racial justice is top of mind for many people in America and around the world. How can we seize
in a lifetime journey, your most recent book, Anti Racist Baby, starts from the literal cradle, giving parents toolsto help raise anti racist Children. And you also worked.I know, I think, earlier this year to make a young adult version of one of your first book stamped for the teenage
and six months. Our toddlers are beginning to understand race and see race by two years old. Our our littleones are consuming racist ideas and determining who to play with based on skin colors on dso. If we're justimagining that they're color blind, right, then we're not protecting them with racist ideas. We're not getting them to see. Okay, No, you should play with You shouldn't say
you personally engage your racist behavior or not, you are the beneficiary of a 350 year system of white supremacy and racial hierarchy, and you don't have
to do a single racist thing to benefit from that system every day on. I think that is. What people have really
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