but I think it's one of the more subversive aspects of the design is that the piece doesn't start with the lights going down, or the orchestra doesn't play an overture . And miraculously, they're able to get focused just by keeping the lights on and having people walk on stage, and I think it teaches you how to watch the rest of the show.
And it's like a big cymbal crash at that moment in that show. You don't hear overtures in part because you don't really have orchestras anymore.
to do so. I think what this is is the first time in this second Trump term that he's made an overture reaching out a hand to the ruler of North Korea Kim Jong Un in an attempt as Mr. Trump tried to do and tried and failed to do in his first term to achieve denuclearization in North Korea.
and learn that lesson or that were a dumb idea in a different time but didn't work for reasons that now would work? They changed the name to Overture .
And it's like a big cymbal crash at that moment in that show. And so the purpose of an overture , which was to get you in the mood for an evening in the theater, is sort of something old fashioned
Okay, so let's shift our attention somewhat then back to to North Korea. Donald Trump has made these overtures . As far as we can tell, nothing much but nothing particular coming back from a Kim Jong-un. What do you think is the
You know, we feel kind of like rock stars at certain moments of the show, because the audience is just, like, going crazy. Usually, the overture starts. And all of a sudden-- Yeah.
I'm in my seat. Lights go down. The overture finishes. And then you say in the book the-- You're lucky if you have an overture these days.
And then you say in the book the-- You're lucky if you have an overture these days. Sure. The overture finishes or they've finished telling me to turn off my cell phone. And you say at this point the audience is in trouble.
And it's like a big cymbal crash at that moment in that show. Hi. You mentioned that overtures are becoming scarce these days.
conflicts about that but perhaps my own situation made me more patient with my husband than I would have been otherwise when he made overtures of tenderness I stopped myself from turning away I would not make him the victim of my disappointment I told
Lights go down. The overture finishes. And then you say in the book the-- You're lucky if you have an overture these days. Sure. The overture finishes or they've finished telling me to turn off my cell phone.
And it's like a big cymbal crash at that moment in that show. You have bands. And a band playing an overture seems sort of foolish somehow or other.
momentous more and more historical a huge confrontation was developing between the United States and the Soviet Union and uh the SDI was being developed so I began to regret turning these overtures down and to cut a long story short in 1985 after Reagan had been reelected I thought I may as well go to
and learn that lesson or that were a dumb idea in a different time but didn't work for reasons that now would work? It went on to power the paid search for Yahoo! and AOL and others as Overture .
with the US well, it's not it's not looking very good. It's not it doesn't appear to be worth much while Donald Trump is is is laying all around him because he said he's once more trying to make overtures to the North Koreans.
And they've managed to weather that situation. I think the current president of Afghanistan and President Karzai as well, they made overtures to the Taliban. They tried to get those peace talks going, but ultimately, that dialogue is going to be the only avenue out of this endless war.
But it was great. Yeah. And I remember, like, waiting in the wings before the show started one night with our, like, now I know very sub-par high school orchestra playing the overture . And just experiencing the feeling of anticipation before going on stage, I was like, oh my god, people do this as a career.
And then there was another person who actually had-- played by Q, who has a son that was a volunteer firefighter, or actually a-- Because as soon as the lights go down, usually with your traditional show, you've got the overture and then the curtain stays down and you're like getting
And it's like a big cymbal crash at that moment in that show. Just to take them as slightly separate issues, musically, what's happened-- and the reason I think you don't hear overtures as much--