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Listen to native speakers pronounce “oranges” as a verb in real conversational contexts with synchronized timestamps and subtitles.
I don't think that really uh helps us very much there's feature points but we're usually dealing with apples andoranges there's unfinished versus done but when is a piece of software really finished it's very hard even to talkabout software and I'll be addressing this in a more Fuller way later in my talk so measuring software is really