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It works. And it works in the seconds.Motherhood is exquisite. And it's really hard.
And so, I'd love for you to just give life to your parenting philosophy, even just a few hours in, on how you expect or plan to integratemotherhood into the lifestyle and the career that you've built.Well. Yeah. I don't know if I have the answers to that really just yet.
However, it can bite us in the rear end also because we have all these expectations of motherhood.Motherhood is supposed to be so beautiful and this incredibly meaningful experience.And of course it is, but when we're not supported in a larger way by our culture, it can also be incredibly challenging.
and the nuances of, really, both what it means to be a woman and what it means when we consider or find ourselves faced with or decide not to move forwardwith motherhood, but also what it means to all of those around us, so how our partners perceive it, how our former friends from different parts of our livesperceive our roles. And there's really just a ton to unpack there.
Some of them were shift workers, some of them were teachers, some of them were hourly wage workers, and they also had as many approachesto motherhood as I could think of.So there were same sex parents who had carried the baby and same sex parents who had not carried the baby.
Yeah, so it's her question is about personal style and how do I stay true to my style.OK motherhood let's talk about that, OK are you an entrepreneur or an actor or a musician?
do to be more loathsome than me? I don't think anything. But, so it still rears it's head, but mostly I think that there actually has been a little bit of a shift in how we thinkabout motherhood, in the time between when I wrote that essay and when the book Bad Mother came out, because what I saw a lot of when Bad Mother, which is just kind of, the book,the book Bad Mother is really in a way I have a kind of a perversity. There is this Yiddish word called "oyftsulokhes" which means, you know like just to spite you, really. So, oyftsulokhes
Everywhere that we lived in the world she would say, think about how women are being treated in the society and in this community.Think very specifically about motherhood.It's like this beginning of life experience.
But I do want to return to an earlier point that you made, which is, while there are many things that these women did have in common, motherhood,and especially Black motherhood, is truly not a monolithic experience.So how did your perception of what it means to be a Black mother change as a result of writing this book and becoming a mother
And she talks about finding freedom in motherhood.And she says motherhood expanded her understanding of the world and expanded who she was as an artist.Do you think these three women found freedom in motherhood?
I want more security.It's a motherhood word.You know, cheap secure.
And it was the third ever Goop podcast, and you deep dove on this conversation of postpartum anxiety, postpartum depression, and whatyou're calling the motherhood shift, which I love.And that was it.
which if you are, congratulations-- or if you just had a baby, but if you are thinking about having a baby.So talk about the Motherhood Center, what it is, and how it helps.So we opened this place called the Motherhood Center, which is trying to help women and families trying to conceive,
I mean, at least, again, in my small circle, we always do, when a baby's born, it's not about holding that new baby.So obviously Motherhood Center, but Elise, what other opportunities are out there?
Recognizing that can quiet the noise in your mind a bit as you go into those meetings.Your new working motherhood is full of benefits to your workplace and your home, and that's recognized everywhere else in the world.We are assets, not liabilities, and you need to feel that and negotiate with that in mind.
I had to relate to her as a person.And so motherhood is in here a lot.I have two kids.
One note here is that women tend to, in the United States and other advanced countries-- economically advanced countries-- still are havinghuge what's called motherhood penalties, that when a woman is a mother, she earns less and is less likely to get hired or promoted reallyfor the rest of her life, even if you control for experience.
of plantar fasciitis; and I will say that they all get ugly, all of them. Even, the raw food one, definitely. They all get ugly, but the vitriol is the worst of all, whenthe topic is motherhood. And, um, I don't know why that is. I mean, other than that it's a perfect manifestation of everything we most hate, I, this kind of nexus conjunctionof maternal anxiety, misogyny, guilt, leisure, technology, I don't know what it is, but it is a vial place at times. There is even a study, it's not just me complaining about
Like, “Poemas de las Madres,” “The Mothers' Poems” is written from the perspective of someone who’s pregnant, expressing how her body is being made strange and different — a new pulse echoing her own.But even though Mistral revered motherhood, she refused to reduce women’s lives to that role alone.When she was just seventeen, she wrote an article defending women’s access to education.
And by the way, I didn't start working on that product-- so I interviewed in 2009.And at risk of asking about motherhood-- and I know we talked about some of the things of, oh, gosh,
Yes, 100%. And to that end, I recently came across an old interview with Toni Morrison who was one of my favorite authors by far.And she talks about finding freedom in motherhood.And she says motherhood expanded her understanding of the world and expanded who she was as an artist.
Language is such an interesting thing, and as an artist, there are some writers, for example, who are very specific about language.And so when you think about motherhood and women having children at an older age, that's not something that's really being reflected in the media.
So talk about the Motherhood Center, what it is, and how it helps.So we opened this place called the Motherhood Center, which is trying to help women and families trying to conceive,thinking about conceiving, so fertility issues, those who are pregnant, and then those in the postpartum.
That's what that time frame is, right.And I know we're called the Motherhood Center, but as I see men out there and I know who are dads, I think, we really do, we also address--it's really a family issue, and I think maybe we'll talk some of that later.
I mean, at least, again, in my small circle, we always do, when a baby's born, it's not about holding that new baby.Other than Goop and hopefully more Motherhood Centers too, I mean, I wouldn't-- it's hard to say.
And of course it is, but when we're not supported in a larger way by our culture, it can also be incredibly challenging.So we hope the transition to motherhood will feel as if you're meditating on motherhood.And actually, sometimes it feels like you're drowning.
Let's not call it guilt. Let's call it whatever the actual feeling is and the experience is so that we can solve for it.So don't just write off your motherhood experience and the challenges of it as guilt.You've done nothing wrong.
I don't want to interrupt you by the way.This is not just a sort of motherhood and apple pie answer, because I tell you what I'm going to say.
But I went-- my mother, who recently passed-- I'd go visit her a lot.The earlier detour brought me to motherhood, and the other one at the age of 46 when I had no job." Now she's working on bringing her message out.
And a lot of young feminist writers are writing about motherhood, and they're saying it's great, but it's also not great at times.
because they just couldn't figure out how to make motherhood and rising in the corporate world possible because the corporate world is a pyramid.
And so that's what I've learned through motherhood.
You mentioned I'm a mother-- opinions on motherhood.
because they just couldn't figure out how to make motherhood and rising in the corporate world possible.
Again, it was motherhood.
It's like this beginning of life experience.And she believed that everything was intertwined with how we treated motherhood.So if mothers were supported, if mothers were protected, if they were doing well, then that society and that community would do well.
We're congratulated most when we put others ahead of us and say that our needs no longer matter.And I don't actually think that is how motherhood should be.I also don't think that everything should fall on that one person and we just expect her to balance everything.
And she says motherhood expanded her understanding of the world and expanded who she was as an artist.Do you think these three women found freedom in motherhood?And have you experienced a new sense of freedom as a mom?
And all these experiences are very true for certain people.But there's something very different about Black motherhood.And because of the way it's been treated in the United States, because of its relationship with slavery, its relationship with us being the only ones who have legally
But rest assured, the motherhood penalty is very real.
How do you optimize your energy level for motherhood and writing?
You have to see so much come across your desk.So how did you sift out Catherine and the Motherhood Center and say, this is something that we need to promote?This is so brand right.
And here are all the facets of modern motherhood that we could cover.
I wish I knew this earlier in my motherhood.
But right now I'm going to get a little theoretical, because-- All right.--in academia, when we talk about motherhood and maternal theory, a lot of it has been dictated by white feminist thought.And so much of it actually says, becoming a mother is the reproduction of patriarchy.
Do you have any ideas where she might have been educated?of what she wasn't willing to give up in her own motherhood.
like women working at home, or motherhood, or race, or-- they're just all of these things that come up.
You have to be a mother.- If government and businesses are going to devalue women's work and make motherhood economically unfeasible, why not outsource it?- See, this is why people hate liberals.
In this one-- another great export from the UK-- the National Health Service equates motherhood with the abandonment of a very specific version
Happens to almost everybody.Yeah. So talk about the Motherhood Center, which opened in New York City, how long ago?Just over a year.
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