I was really glad to have the opportunity to come and talk here today. I teach about international security . That's my day job, and I teach about civil military relations as well.
that he helped organize. They're talking about international security , they're not talking about AI, like, the biggest technology out there.
an effective cost it fails but some of the best people in the field i know are involved in this story of theoretical analysis so you do international security theory and there's various models for why people do
And so about three years ago, Dorothie and I decided that we were going to take a new approach-- actually it's an old approach. Because 35 years ago when I shifted my work from information security to international security , what got both of us interested in this international security wasn't wanting to save the world initially, it was wanting to save our marriage.
- "Iran Breakdown," by the way is the name of the podcast. - Yeah, and David's the president of the Institute for Science International Security and by the way, spent decades on this. And to his credit, he was one of the deep skeptics of the Bush administration's rushed War with Iraq and he- - That's not true.
And I'm pleased to welcome our guest Olga Oliker who joins us from the Rand Corporation. Ms. Oliker's based in Rand's Washington office where she is Associate Director of International Security and Defense Policy Center and a senior international policy analyst. Her research is focused on international relations, national security policy, and a context of countries in conflict, post-conflict, transition, development,
And today-- a few years later-- you have a fundamentally transformed market, a lot less political power involved, a lot more open trade. The kind of thing that's good for economies but also good for international security . So if prices are one of the flash points and sort of the media headlines when it comes to China's quest for resources,
Namely, the rise of China. And yet we have only a limited understanding of what that rise means for the global economy, for governance, and for international security . And so we decided to look at one of the issues that we believe is really at the heart of this rise.
Certainly there's been a lot of hype in the media surrounding this issue. China can be either the savior of the global economy, or the scourge of good global governance, or it's undermining international security because of its willingness to do business anywhere at any time.
of our country and indeed of all countries. And it is a fact, which is unknown to virtually every single citizen of our country and the rest of the world. And when you hear this, it changes the way you see the world. War, which is at the center of international security concerns and policy-making and at the center of the concerns of international political institutions, should be side by side with the prevention or stopping of genocide.
political institutions, should be side by side with the prevention or stopping of genocide. Which, right now, is treated as a secondary or tertiary phenomenon, certainly not central to international security discussions or policy-making. So, this large-scale fact should change how you understand the world and what is a, the chief problem of lethal violence in the world today -- it's mass murder. Now to talk about
"What can we do here? What should we do? What ought we do?" And either do it or more likely not. And, as I said, it must become a central feature because it's systemic to world. The extent of the problem is so great of international security policy making. We must tell the truth about the nature of the problem. The problem, as bad as it is, is namely genocide, is not even the real problem. It's not the most fundamental problem. Genocide is but one manifestation