And so these companies had very strong cultures and people who grew up in those cultures were sort of indoctrinated into these frameworks, these ways of thinking about capital allocation.And those who subsequently left to run other businesses, brought those frameworks with them.
first fell in love with food and I was awakened. I, undoubtedly, know that I was dipped and indoctrinated when I first went to France when I was 19. But every day on the way to school, I went by these open markets and I just couldn't believe my eyes, I mean, andwe go in these little restaurants and gather with friends, and we get to eat this food.
and so on and so forth. And they'd just indoctrinate you.
make head nor tails of. How do we indoctrinate young players?
That phrase was originally coined by one of our fallen SEAL Team 6 team leaders, his name was Tommy Valentine. And when he would indoctrinate new guys into the team, he would sit them down and ask them about what they thought their level of participation on the team should be.
So you've got to teach children about religion. But to indoctrinate a child in a particular religion and tell a child-- a six-year-old child-- tell a six-year-old child, you belong to this religion. And, therefore, you believe in this, this, and this and not that, that, and that.
It being an Anglican school, they were very decent and didn't take it out on us. They didn't indoctrinate or punish us in any way, which I think is a nice advertisement for the Anglican church. I hate to think what might have happened if we'd been to a school run by a rival sect.
school -- but what really matters, the very foundation of human life, and it's not some belief structure. I'm not saying indoctrinate , children must believe, it's not believe at all it's an experience, it's a realization. That's what needs to be taught, that needs to be subject number one at school: who am I? And everything else is easy once you have that.
It's when you associate your belief with an identity. You are that belief. And so you see any rivals to that position as a kind of test of faith. You see any rivals as a kind of temptation. So the indoctrinated person doesn't belong to any one camp. It's not the atheist. It's not the believer. It's not the right wing or it's not the left wing. It's how you keep those beliefs. And what Rali is saying is what Bonhoeffer was saying as well that when we conform to some kind of group think we are surrendering our own ability to do critical thinking
Rali's paper asks the slightly more difficult question. How can we resolve this? Because if we are aware of indoctrinated people in our lives and we have to be aware that we also ourselves might be indoctrinated in certain key areas. I suspect that most people watching this and myself included are indoctrinated in certain areas that I will reject information. I will reject evidence if it's presented to me by a certain person in a certain way or about a certain topic.
You have that ultimate agency, which means that the job you are doing right now, at some level, you're a volunteer. And you have been indoctrinated , from a very young age, to ask, will this be on the test? To get a good grade, to find the right answer, to get picked to go to the famous college, and then to the placement office, and get picked.
Do you have enough resources to take care of yourself and your family and do whatever you can to make the world around you And we're indoctrinated not to raise our hand.
So I'd say the first way I learned failure is honestly by taking lots of little risks on the job. And that indoctrinated me to this idea of people saying no to me or something not working out. And one of the tips I often give people is, like, if you want to take a big risk later, you've got to start by taking lots of little risks today.
Grandmothers, she said, if you keep your emotions in yourself, it's like you create a stagnant pool of energy. So our minds are indoctrinated to give away our personal authority.
And he just did that in two or three passes at it, and we were done. I was indoctrinated . Makes sense.
Because we can't get rid of a feeling, but we can learn to distrust it. We're kind of indoctrinated to take on other people's tribe.
She didn't know if we were gonna sell tickets that night. But I quickly became indoctrinated into the politics, and I was passionate about it.
that the culture indoctrinates into us moment after moment, that we're actually making everything happen from the place of the ego.
They thought they were going to indoctrinate them in some weird oriental metaphysics or something.
But they have this enormous program to indoctrinate kids, people in kindergarten,
vegan whatever. Anyone can become indoctrinated in so far as how they hold their beliefs. Now the difference is that the indoctrinated person will see every rival to their belief system as a kind of enemy. They are so used to associating their belief with a certain identity that if anybody comes along and challenges that belief, they will see them as a kind of opposition. For example, in the online discourse, it's very common to attack
Is it because they've been indoctrinated to say they approve?
So my niece and nephew are being indoctrinated .
But my niece is totally indoctrinated .
She didn't know if we were gonna sell tickets that night. in your life that you actually became indoctrinated and part of the movement.
uh uh like anyone else being programmed indoctrinated into a completely
comic books and it was really a way to indoctrinate you into Hinduism because
And we tend to assume-- we've kind of been indoctrinated in this energy first view, that energy explains everything.
You add to that the myth that women have been indoctrinated with, which is the idea that we can have it all.
Basically, I became indoctrinated and kind of shifted from loving the outdoors to wanting to live and work
Rather-- Jahan Zeb will tell you about it-- but they were indoctrinated -- few who were sent to schools-- they were indoctrinated and radicalized to love war, and to be jihadi.
We think of them as weak. In fact, our culture indoctrinates us to believe this to be true, right? I call this the traditional leadership archetype.
She didn't know if we were gonna sell tickets that night. I went through a seven year period where I was indoctrinated and was passionate about what I believed in.
and become closer to it, and really indoctrinate it into our daily work.
who steps outside of their lane. So Chris Finalei in 2022 wrote a paper into indoctrination and he was trying to look at the factors that make somebody indoctrinated and he is quite clear early on in his paper to make the distinction that anybody can become indoctrinated . It doesn't matter whether you are a Christian or an atheist or leftwing or right-wing or a meat eater or a vegan whatever. Anyone can become indoctrinated in so far as how they hold their beliefs.
early on in his paper to make the distinction that anybody can become indoctrinated . It doesn't matter whether you are a Christian or an atheist or leftwing or right-wing or a meat eater or a vegan whatever. Anyone can become indoctrinated in so far as how they hold their beliefs. Now the difference is that the indoctrinated person will see every rival to their belief system as a kind of enemy. They are so used to associating their belief with a certain identity
Okay. You you get so indoctrinated in this worldview that the only thing that's real is the physical stuff.
Do you have enough resources to take care of yourself and your family and do whatever you can to make the world around you There are always going to be people around us who have been sufficiently indoctrinated to do what they think is safe and feel insecure when change happens,
I'm just saying, hey, do a bunch of small failing, because guess what? It's pretty easy, and you'll get indoctrinated quickly. And then at some point in your life when you have the big fail because you actually took a big risk, be thankful
host of contentious discussions about which statues to take down which histories is being indoctrinated , etcetera. And your premise there is that
the work that they do. And, if we don't empathize with the people that are doing that work, we can appreciate it. We have been indoctrinated in the way of fast food, and we've learned fast food values which tell us not to care about where our food comes from, and not to care about the people who produce it; it magically happens. Resources are infinite. They should
many of the things we do. And the systems around us indoctrinate us because they want us to be cogs in the
And it's actually positively wicked if you bring up children, if you indoctrinate children with Bronze Age myths as though they were true, instead of exposing children
They're victims of all sorts of media and commercial systems. And we've been indoctrinated to not notice it.
victims of all sorts of media and commercial systems. And we've been indoctrinated to not notice it. And
They don't believe in democracy, because the way they were indoctrinated or they remained without education, that has taught them the way of violence.
Michael Specter: Yeah. Q Do you think the fact that a lot of people are indoctrinated from early age to believe
What matters more is loyalty and what matters more is identity. So for example in 2022 a philosopher called Chris Rali wrote a paper about indoctrination and he was trying to answer the question what is it that makes somebody indoctrinated ? How can we define indoctrination? And Rali argues that indoctrination is not defined by believing one thing or believing another thing. It's when you close your citadel to any alternative positions.
So what Bitan is saying is that stupidity isn't limited to any one particular type of person. It can be anywhere. It can be in the academy. It can be an incredibly intelligent person who steps outside of their lane. So Chris Finalei in 2022 wrote a paper into indoctrination and he was trying to look at the factors that make somebody indoctrinated and he is quite clear early on in his paper to make the distinction that anybody can become indoctrinated . It doesn't matter whether you are a Christian or an atheist or leftwing or right-wing or a meat eater or a
They are so used to viewing the enemy in certain areas that they will not take anything that they say as worth considering. Now that's the first part of Rali's paper. But the second part of Rali's paper asks the slightly more difficult question. How can we resolve this? Because if we are aware of indoctrinated people in our lives and we have to be aware that we also ourselves might be indoctrinated in certain key areas. I suspect that most people watching this and myself included are indoctrinated in certain areas that I will reject information. I will reject