north and in the south they're more savory. Uh and but the I think probably the pinnacle of dim sum really is in uh Guangjo which is the capital of Guangdong province which is the southernmost coastal province in China and they made it into a total art I don't know I don't I guess the idea is a type of art uh the so many varieties
And none of the kids that were exchanged knew they were being exchanged until I was able to give them the documents that showed that they were part of the prisoner Guantanamo Bay, which he purchased for a military place.
Cuba for us is nothing. Guantanamo. It's just a means of trying to undermine Cuba-- prevent Cuban development. And the United States, of course, has been at war with Cuba since 1959, when Cuba finally did liberate itself.
Their languages are also being destroyed. Guantanamo is a major torture center.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it's same breed. Guanciale is a really good one.
Z what was it like being a prisoner of the Americans in guantan and then he asked me Mr vanik what was it like being a prisoner of the Taliban we were 10,000 Mi apart and all of a sudden became very emotional
Kristine Huskey: Well, you raise many good points and some which I should have hit on in the beginning talking about Guantanamo. You know, one of the original problems of Guantanamo -- like I said -- was, it was a legal black hole. And what that really meant was, the Bush Administration was saying, "They're not prisoners of war.
She's been a correspondent at "60 Minutes" for 25 years, and has covered pretty much everything that's happened in the world in the last quarter century, from Guantanamo, to all the wars, to various presidential campaigns, to technology stories, which is a particular area of interest of hers, to sports. She is the winner of 11 Emmy awards.
so I established that analogy. And because T is straight and so is the dash, I established that analogy. On the right, you have the arbitrary part of the code, so space between the letters became guanine and space between words became adenine. So, how does this work? You have a direct translation, if you look at the bottom; you have C-T-C-C-G. So, C-T-C-C is dot dash dot dot space. And it goes on like that. So, C-T-C-C, dot dash dot dot, is the letter L
I counted more than a dozen times that he pejoratively used the word liberal or liberals. He claimed that liberals are responsible for awarding Guantanamo terrorists with Constitutional Rights, putting the interests of the teachers' union ahead of the needs of our children, stopping nuclear power plants and offshore drilling, making us more and more dependent on Middle Eastern tyrants and replacing opportunity
behold, we actually win. And this is the well-known Rasul case that came out in 2004 and was the first case in which the Supreme Court said "The detainees at Guantanamo are entitled to challenge their detention.” They are allowed to go into court and say, "You've got the wrong guy. You made a mistake." or, "The law doesn't support me being here.” And just, essentially, challenge their detention, something that goes back to the Magna Carta,
Something changed fundamentally at Guantanamo, also Abu Ghraib and some other such things. But Guantanamo was a really important one in that, sort of, our expectations of what we do in conflicts are now different. It used to be, you'd have a war, you get prisoners, and there were some rules in prisoners. You can't photograph them.
Kristine Huskey: I mean, there definitely was -- at some point what they had -- what they were called the CIA 'black sites', where they did bring -- and this sort of came out after Guantanamo had come out, right? And so, we're looking at Guantanamo like, "Oh, it's this legal black hole.” And then we find out there's sites that are even more of a legal black hole than Guantanamo. Which is just, "What?!" you know?
And despite all these obstacles, somehow the American ship captain's wife, Augusta Obear, was allowed into Guangzhou to accompany Afong Moy out of China. So all these irregularities really fascinated me.
Well, we riff off of that. And we take guanciale. We render it out.
throughout town. The pork tradition in Rome is an ancient one as well, though our sort of dominant pork ingredient is the guanciale that I referenced earlier. Offal, so things like heart, lungs, liver, trachea stew, AKA coratella, tripe simmered in a tomato sauce--
Often, we sort of separate the cucina ebraica or the Jewish tradition of Rome when we talk about Roman food, and, in fact, it, of course, follows the laws of kashrut, so no guanciale. None of the dishes combine dairy and meat, but there are a lot of similarities in the Roman Jewish tradition with respect to the flavor profiles and ingredients of the Roman tradition.
different kinds of congi in different parts of the country basically from the Yangti River area on south down the coastline to uh Guangjo. And uh these are uh different areas have different kinds. For example, if you're in the Yangti area, you might have this for a summertime treat with a a lotus leaf cooked in there and then served cool.
that with side dishes, and that's very delicious. Uh you go to Chowo which is a small um fishing port on the northern edge of Guangong near Guangjo near uh Guangdong near um Fujian province and they serve a very thick version and it's called mi and that is pretty much what Chinese use as a go-to food for like when you're feeling ill and you can't
And there were three different groups of scientist trying to bring back the woolly mammoth. And the guano fertilized the ground.
And none of the kids that were exchanged knew they were being exchanged until I was able to give them the documents that showed that they were part of the prisoner I thought we had Guantanamo before that.
to subversion. And another person who I profile in my book is this man. His name is Chen Guang. And in 1989, he was a 17-year-old soldier.
He goes, oh, that's where the Americans are. We call it Guantanamo. And I said, well, what goes on there?
find some guanchiale-- you would go buy some pancetta or some great American bacon. I just give it a little chop right here with one of these fancy knives.
indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere without charge and without any
and indefinite confinement at Guantanamo of course is certainly among the presidents who have claimed significant
graffiti written in Black Guantanamo so I would like to see what
We need more Guantanamos?" More Guantanamos, more torture and Mc Cain very aggressively took him on, on television,
and from what it was like just a few years out of law school really representing suspected terrorists at Guantanamo having grown up in Alaska with parents and grandparents who were in the military. And if asked, they probably would have said they were Republicans -- and my sister is rolling her eyes -- and all of a sudden, here I was representing suspected terrorists. So that's the second piece, and it's interwoven
I mean, we wrote in this first brief -- we said, "The government, essentially, is taking the position that they could go around the world and pick up people off the streets and put them at Guantanamo and torture them.” Well, actually, now we sort of know that's what they did. But back then, we sort of asked it as a rhetorical question, "How could this possibly be?” But the Court agreed with the government that the men at Guantanamo should not even have a right to be in court and challenge their
Unfortunately, I have a daughter today who comes to me and asks me questions about the country, and I can't tell her the same things my parents told me. Something changed fundamentally at Guantanamo, also Abu Ghraib and some other such things. But Guantanamo was a really important one in that, sort of, our expectations of what we do in conflicts are now different. It used to be, you'd have a war, you get prisoners,
positive Haitians in Guantanamo um because they had HIV and because we didn't want to put them with the other immigrants that we didn't know what to
And it's really kind of a nice tomato sauce. You start off rendering out your guanciale. You add your tomato sauce and you add rigatoni and you had lots of pecorino and black pepper.
And there were three different groups of scientist trying to bring back the woolly mammoth. They would cover the forest floor in guano.
He was going down to the Guangzhou fair, the Canton fair.
In this wonderful paper by Guang Yang -- she's out of Langone-- is if you look at the top picture,
At gun point, the US imposed a treaty on Cuba, Platt Ammendment, it's called, in which Cuba granted the United States control over eastern Cuba-- so what we call Guantanamo. Happens to include Cuba's major port-- it's only port oriented towards Europe, which is where its main trade would be.
But they found a way to continue them through a sort of backdoor approach. Now the President has failed to close Guantanamo, not just because he hasn't fought hard enough on it. Republicans have been blocking funding.
But one of the results of the sort of Guantanamo issue festering, and the fact that there are 27 people now that are being forced fed in Guantanamo that are on hunger strike, many of the prisoners have already been cleared for release. And the US refuses to release those individuals.
there is a flight to Guantanamo
You could imagine how long and strange that journey might have been. The second story is the story of Guantanamo. And it's not the story you might read in the newspapers -- New York Times, Washington Post. It's not the story you might read in a Harvard Law Review with 300 footnotes. So it's not a legal story; it's not a policy story. It's a story of Guantanamo from a human perspective
And it was a legal black hole and there were no lawyers allowed there and there were no, you know, really no outside organizations other than the Red Cross. And any information that came out about Guantanamo was, "Oh, these guys are all terrorists. And they chew through hydraulic cable to kill American men and women.” Well, those were my clients. And the Kuwaiti families basically said, "We
The most recent being in April. And every time I'd go, I'd learn something new from my clients, whether they'd tell me of some abuse they'd been through while they were held in Bagram or in Guantanamo or I'd be subject to some new rule. You know, one time -- in the beginning of those visits -- we were allowed to go to the public library on the base; and then thereafter, we weren't allowed to go to the public library.
You had a bunch of things changed. But, what were you not able to fix? How is our system different today after Guantanamo than it was before? What have we lost?
You know, What didn't we fix? Well, a lot. A lot. There's still people at Guantanamo, although, you know, thankfully Obama came out and said he's going to close Guantanamo. But I think that's sort of the biggest piece, you know? The biggest piece is that somehow maybe we weren't able to show -- to demonstrate -- how terrible it is to have a legal black hole.
And actually, before -- in 2006, Congress passed a law about the military commissions -- and, you know, what I think was in sort of a manipulative move -- moved a lot of the detainees from these 'black sites' to Guantanamo and said to Congress, "Okay. Now you have to pass this law, because now all these high-value detainees are there, and they should be put through some sort of system.”
dead scared of AIDS I went to Guantanamo Bay Cuba before was in its current Incarnation and we were putting HIV
This is me performing with my Xiangsheng Master Ding Guangquan.
In doing the research, I found that it was very likely that a terrible flood and famine in the southern part of China, which we know is then Canton and now as Guangzhou, would have affected trade and the activities in southern China. And this would have had an impact, as well coupled with the fact that two Western merchants were
It was illegal to learn English. It was illegal for a Western woman to come to Guangzhou. And despite all these obstacles, somehow the American ship captain's wife, Augusta Obear,