interesting you know no matter what you really do at Bon Appetit it really helps to taste the food whether you're just a copy editor or a fact Checker it just really helps to sort of get a sense of of what we're talking about when you'resitting there reading the copy and plus it's a lot of fun and you know it's a nice perk of working there I have to say
And no one seems to notice. The copy editor didn't flag it. My editor didn't notice.
He'd say, do you want ravioli, or do you want regular pasta for dinner? They need a copy editor .
if it follows these particular rules. And so she's a very dedicated copy editor and then eventually becomes a language columnist who is basically a language scold. And people love that.
And I had this lunch a while back where I was telling one of my clients about the book, and he pulls out his cell phone. And my son who is my copy editor said, "Well, sons are going to want to write about their mothers too." And it was like a new idea to me that sons would actually
And I had never hired a freelance anything before, so I Googled how to hire a freelance editor, what is the difference between a copy editor and a proofreader, how to negotiate a contract with a freelance designer? So I educated myself on the process.
Right. Because it's just too damn much to show you all of New York in one day, right? I hired a copywriter-- a copy editor .
They--. The citrus usually--. They send it to a copy editor who makes sure you're not retarded and fixes your grammar mistakes, missing words.
then this street to make sure that the directions were right and then later on when we were doing copy editing without me saying anything or prompting anything I discovered that the copy editor also looked up Google to make sure I got the streets right in that chase scene I thought that was awesome yeah and Sen Hill you you mentioned
I I went back and forth like AA is a really language and slang driven kind of comic and it's just pushes and mushes and morphs the ways of speaking and their copy editor was just livid like I'd get manuscripts back where every page had like 15 you know shorthand markups from their editor and grudgingly over time I had to admit that something was wrong but they just but
And so with her editing, I think it became "Obasan." That's amazing. And it was the copy editor in that house that chose the name "Obasan," because we couldn't think of what to call it.
Right? It's like if you put errors in it, I believe you typed it. You know, the AI can draft the thing as though it had a PhD in English, and it had 20 years experience as a copy editor . And so, we're reaching this point where lack of of effectiveness is just
In certain circumstances, you want to follow certain rules or style rules. And Daphne doesn't do that, doesn't become a copy editor . She becomes a kindergarten teacher for a while.
And I was in seventh grade, and I understood about 1/10 of it, although I do remember coming across the word "naive." And when I started out-- I mean, I was a copy editor for some time.
And I was in seventh grade, and I understood about 1/10 of it, although I do remember coming across the word "naive." Thanks. So you mentioned you used to be a copy editor .
beautiful analog my shadow really good cion words so much yeah I was so happy so many times cuz Shadow Boxing is one word so many times I just send it back to the copy editor be like it's one word you know just put it one word um so anyway the so from there it was like coming out to your friends and your immediate
roster of list of every player on the Redskins everybody in Congress and I remember seeing the presentation and think thought thank God I finally know what I'm doing next cuz at that point in my career I was looking at a long career of being a copy editor in sports which meant probably being unmarried forever because if you know how the hours copy editors work especially Sports copy editors you work nights and you work
But it's not just them. As the piece is going through edits, other editors are looking at it. And then fact checkers at the New Yorker -- which is not typical in that sense of other institutions -- are doing it. And then the copy editor is getting it. So it becomes a team effort. It's my name on the piece but it's a team effort that helped produce it.
task-oriented things, right? Like I'm a financial analyst, or I'm a developer, or I'm a copy editor .
OK, I just wrote this incorrectly, but I do remember my own book. So excuse me. Daphne, the younger sister by 17 minutes, becomes a copy editor and then a grammar columnist in the age-old prescriptivist manner.
And then there are linguists who say, come on, we're trying. So the prescriptivists in this book, one of the girls, Daphne, becomes a copy editor and therefore has to follow style guides.
But one evening, in the spring of 1997, in a pinch, they needed a copy editor .
So you have your slot about this is when the editor can focus on your book, this is when the copy editor can