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Now let's talk about non-random mutation because that is also a big driver of evolution.Berg, Boyer, and Cohen.It sounds like a law firm.
circumstances some of the stressful things that have happenedbergamont and a and a grapefruit scent why because I mean if I am like super
I am a postdoc researcher at the Institute of Marine Research in Bergen, Norway.Bergen is on the west coast of Norway in the fjord country.And we're the best-funded research institution in Norway.
card on them is, in the name of the war on terror?Bergen: Well, look. I think the point of the book wasn't an assessment of how well the CIA did before 9/11 as you say, but the fact is, the CIA did pretty well before 9/11.9/11 wasn't an intelligence failure as it was often portrayed. It was a policy failure because the intelligence apparatus of the United States, in particular the CIA, in particular
Laden at Tora Bora. When you wrote this book, did you learn anything new about--?Bergen: I did. Wikileaks is an incredibly useful resource for this kind of reporting because we have the-- There's a lot of material on Wikileaks which is not significant, butsome of it is significant. In particular, the summaries of the Guantanamo interrogations of the detainees there. Karen's written literally several books on this subject. I have visited
place that in his psyche and in the eventual capture?Bergen: The CIA was asking a lot of the same questions about "Okay, what is the profile of Osama bin Laden?" Because most fugitives don't try to take three wives and a dozenkids and grandkids around with them, for obvious reasons. But they concluded, at the agency, that it would be quite likely that bin Laden-- Bin Laden's a family guy. He's had six wives,
of all of these ways that he could have been gotten at.Bergen: He stopped using his cell phone. He stopped using his-- Cell phones were not in existence in Afghanistan at the time. He stopped using his satellite phone probablyin '98. He was very paranoid about-- I mean, I met him in '97, and we were treated in an extremely paranoid, secretive, disciplined way, searched very thoroughly, not allowed
house constructed for himself in Abbottabad, and how the windows were these slits so that you actually couldn't see.Bergen: In a way, he became a prisoner. He created his own prison. It meant that it was very hard to find him, but also, when the day came, the night came, the SEALs werethere, he couldn't really see very much because he created this prison-like environment. At the end of the day, he faced a dilemma, which was he could essentially stop communicating
talk a little bit about what that information was and then we'll talk a little bit about-- So we know how important it is.Bergen: Qahtani is really an interesting case because he appears, from what we can tell, to be the first person to finger Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti as a reasonably significantplayer in al-Qaeda. He describes him as somebody who was giving him instruction. Al-Qahtani was going to be the 20th hijacker and was arrested at Orlando. Well, not arrested, turned
else could have done it as well.Bergen: I went into it thinking the answer was likely to be kinda gray, like a lot of things in life. And the answer is, it is kinda gray It's not one of these perfect "One groupis wrong and one group is right." presenter: Right. And it doesn't affect the moral question of whether it's right or not. The question of-- Or does it?
is wrong and one group is right." presenter: Right. And it doesn't affect the moral question of whether it's right or not. The question of-- Or does it?Bergen: That's an interesting question. That's at a level above my pay grade-- presenter: Right, I know, I know. I didn't expect you to have to make that comment.I want to turn to a different subject. One of the things that surprised me about the book was how much of it is after 2008. It's almost like we're trying, we're trying, we're
presenter: I think that's a really important point about President Obama's willingness to be a warrior.Bergen: What I say in the piece, in the Times, was, and I didn't actually fully develop this, but this is the first major American political figure, when I say major, reallymajor, who in a sense-- Other than somebody like Hillary Clinton, who isn't-- The issue
presenter: He is the decider, actually.Bergen: Indeed. Well, this is a really interesting thing about the book, is that of system, I quote Tom Donilon, the National Security Advisor. "At the end of the day, somebody has to gointo their own bedroom at night and make a decision on behalf of 300 million Americans." That's a pretty lonely place to be. If you think about the decision that the president
convince him." presenter: Lawyerly.Bergen: Lawyerly. She really examined the pros and cons. And people didn't know where she was going to go. In the end, she said, "You should do the raid." Leon Panetta, thedirector of the CIA, was, of course, pushing for the raid from the beginning. He also had a form of the political argument, which is, I quote him again directly from an interview,
presenter: Right. And as you point out, even then, even with all the pressure on him, he took the night to think about it. Right? He took--Bergen: I would love to have-- I asked for an interview with him and didn't get one.He did do a pretty substantial interview with 60 Minutes, and gave a very interesting interview to the History Channel, on which he develops some of his thoughts further. And obviously,
I expected there'd be a lot in this book about the SEAL team and how they thought. That kind of book. It's very much not that. This is--Bergen: They wouldn't talk to me, so that's really easy.presenter: But it's very much about the teamwork-- Bergen: Yeah.
are a lot of people who could be heroes and you could make the case for the President and for that particular woman at the CIA, you might--Bergen: Do you think Al Pacino will play him, or?presenter: I don't know. I think it's-- We have to think. But it's very interesting in how he's the person who goes in and says, "Abbottabad? Why don't we know more about
Talk a little bit about what you think this meant to bin Laden and what it means for the future of al Qaeda, in generalBergen: I think we know what it meant to bin Laden. Bin Laden released around 30 audiotapes and videotapes after 9/11, and he would comment on the matters of the most minor interestin the Muslim world. Arcane discussions of theology amongst Saudi clerics who would talk about the decision in France to ban the public wearing of the burqa. He would talk about
presenter: Perhaps you could whisper that in the ear of some politician.Bergen: Yeah, I could whisper it, but I think it would be a waste of breath because I think no--. Politicians are politicians because they want--. This is not even a criticismof them. They're not going to say that because it becomes freighted with too much political cost if you're wrong.
is something we can now be at ease about?Bergen: The way I would answer that, Christmas Day 2009. If that plane had blown up over Detroit with 300 Americans on board, carried live on CNN, the Obama presidency would havebeen over, in my view. He would be a one-term president. That's not a comment on him, it's a comment on zero tolerance that the American people now have for this kind of thing. After
presenter: So we need to keep this--. Or we will keep this big infrastructure? Do we need all of that?Bergen: I'm sure we don't. There are 860,000 Americans with top secret clearances. Not secret, top secret. I don't think they all need them, somehow. Having a certain amountof redundancy is fine, but there's--. Clearly everybody's going to have to give blood at the blood bank in terms of this budget crisis. The national security industrial complex shouldn't
of redundancy is fine, but there's--. Clearly everybody's going to have to give blood at the blood bank in terms of this budget crisis. The national security industrial complex shouldn'tBergen: On the question of informations publicly available, obviously I'm a journalist, so I'm in favor of as much publicly available information. Obviously at Google, which is--.
of redundancy is fine, but there's--. Clearly everybody's going to have to give blood at the blood bank in terms of this budget crisis. The national security industrial complex shouldn'tBergen: I don't see the connection.
of redundancy is fine, but there's--. Clearly everybody's going to have to give blood at the blood bank in terms of this budget crisis. The national security industrial complex shouldn'tBergen: Right. That's a fair enough question. Why are we in Afghanistan. What is the strategy?
of redundancy is fine, but there's--. Clearly everybody's going to have to give blood at the blood bank in terms of this budget crisis. The national security industrial complex shouldn'tBergen: I say in the book. There was a plan, if we captured bin Laden, to take him to Bagram Air Force Base and then put him on a plane to the USS Carl Vinson, which is a huge warship,
of redundancy is fine, but there's--. Clearly everybody's going to have to give blood at the blood bank in terms of this budget crisis. The national security industrial complex shouldn'tBergen: One of the interesting things about these documents is a question that I've always had about bin Laden, which is he claims he's a defender of Muslims, yet a lot of his victims
for as many summers as I can. And then we're open to going offsite to other countries. And I think in Norway inBergen, they're building the game structure, huge 4x4x4 plexiglass cube for me so I can come and play with uhteenagers there actually. So we're open to that sort of thing, replication on-site and off-site training. And then
political considerations above uh scientific ones be chief justice WarrenBerger um ruled on this so he wrote the opinion in which the Supreme Court affirmed The Endangered Species Act many years ago and he said you know ashopping mall a road all those have monetary value they come and go Extinction is forever you can't put a
I don't know where it came from.Alec Berg and I were always-- Did someone just die?Fainted with excitement. Someone fainted.
And I'll be honest.Alec Berg and I wrote it very arch.I mean, he was, I think he had a cape.
Naumburg, home to around 30,000 people.Damaris Berger from the local Department of Education takes me on a tour of the construction site.This is basically the largest construction project in the history of our country. And what's being built here is a school complex. Several schools are
Michael Sheen is Alice's husband.Candice Bergen is Alice's mom.We've got Lake Bell, who's a wonderful addition.
That type of situation makes me learn about myself, about how to deal with the pressure because being a player and being a coach is completely different.And Bergkamp, and Zidane, and you have all become managers as well.
And none of the kids that were exchanged knew they were being exchanged until I was able to give them the documents that showed that they were part of the prisonerof Bergen-Belsen. They became exchange Jews because before the Nazis took over Amsterdam, he had gotten them
Researchers at the University of Pennsylvania-- Katherine Milkman and-- Jonah Berger.Jonah Berger-- have looked at what makes people share content online.And what they've found is that, in fact, when we're passive, we don't share much.
But art that is not exclusive to one person but can still be art seems to threaten that long-established supply and demand.And Berger, if I'm not mistaken was a communist , or at least a socialist.He was. There seemed to be implications, yeah.
the nation's expert on it. Let me get to the heart of this. Why did it take us so long to find bin Laden?Peter Bergen: Thank you everybody for coming. I know you have busy lives. Thank you, Karen, for doing this, and thank you, Google, for organizing this. Why did it take so long?Rumsfeld had an interesting answer to that question several years ago when he was asked the same question. He said, in a very Rumsfeldian manner, "The world's a big place." Think about
So, this was a German-Austrian hypothesis prior to World War II. It was known as the lipophilia hypothesis. I'll explain that in a second. The primary proponents where Gustavvon Bergmann, who was a German specialist in internal medicine. Today the highest award in the German Association of Internal Medicine is the Gustav von Bergmann Award.
what Berger calls a "category mistake." Modernity doesn't so much secularize as it pluralizes, right? And, indeed, what numbers show right now is that there's, there's religion, as
Peter Berger says, "The world is as religious as it ever was; perhaps more furiously religious than ever." Right? Sure, there's a growth in people who call themselves nonbelievers,
Ingrid Bergman opens the door carrying a newborn baby -- not a good sign.
and to start Scharffen Berger Chocolate.
Leslie-Ann Bergstrom. Thank you for sharing.
So like Ted Berger, before he put the artificial hippocampus in human experiments, he used it in the context of great apes.
from Sharffen Berger when we went on a chocolate tour of the little plant in Berkeley.
It was actually Tim Bergen, who I never met-- but it was his books that got me into animal behavior.
And this is Bergen-Belsen.
et le Bergman Center à Harvard, ce qui est passionnant, c'est que c'est un centre de recherche pluridisciplinaire, c'est-à-dire qu'il y a des codeurs qui travaillent avec des juristes
My name is Scott Bergman.
heard actually was in Bergen in Norway where a tourist stops a little kid and says does it always rain here and the
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