Post-American World. Welcome to DW. Let's start by def defining our terms. When we talk about the world order or the rules-based order, we're talking about what? Well, Henry Kissinger suggested that world order rests on two pillars. One is
that I think are worth reflecting on before we simply U you leap into the notion that we are in um in a sort of New World Order and the first is that that was a multi-polar world uh China as you all know is uh very much becoming a superpower today um and it was a thousand years ago the Song Dynasty was
And clearly there are new muscles to be developed and new skills to be learned, but I think that there is an egalitarianism in this new world order that I'm really super positive about. Because it means everybody's box is the same size.
I think that's a good segue to introduce Parag Khanna today because he is bringing together those factors, these multi-dimensional factors and reimagining things that, really around our world order and our governance system. And he's kind of reimagining our future with a much more nuanced and complex framing than we're used to.
And the title of the morning was going to be, "To See the Streets of New York through the Eyes of a Spy". In the New World Order where Asia is emerging pretty quickly and rapidly and China is starting to dominate the world scene,
have been submitted by our audience. When I listen to the political leadership in the world, they don't speak with this level of understanding of world order , negotiation, and so forth. They speak from the standpoint of their doctrine. So the Chinese speak from, "We're right and you're wrong." The Americans says, "We're right and you're wrong," the
And in the environment of evolutionary adaptiveness, the optimum point for that trade-off is at one place, and now we want to move that. Which is basically a world order where at the highest level of decision-making, there's like one decision-making agency.
We are on a knife's edge as a nation, at least in the United States. I think this is true around the world too, when you think about, for instance, cuts to USAID and aid and the sort of disintegration of the global world order , like, we can make a decision both as the United States and as a global community, to pay forward the wealth, the opportunity,
partner with most countries than the United States is. And that's a changing of the world order . That is one of the ingredients, right?
We've seen some specific areas, areas like Morocco, becoming a leader in renewable energy in some specific kind of manufacturing because they understood the energy, We call it the New World Order .
God favors the taking. And at the bottom-- the new world order . And it was under FDR that that was put on.
And that particular paradox is one that has shaped the China we see today. to be a citizen in world order , to take part in that world order of Nobel Prizes and international society and the United Nations
world are related to each other through technology, and with instantaneous communication, and so they can affect each other. The Roman empire and the Chinese empire were not part of the same world order . They didn't know of each other. And they didn't know how to interact with each other. So that's the problem I was trying to deal with in this book and that I think is one of the challenges of our time.
But they also pose moral questions about what responsibilities the West-- which I see as a political construct, not just a geographic construct-- Western countries that in some ways defined a world order after the Second World War based on the sovereignty of states but also the rights of individuals-- how that is defended.
This world is mine for the taking. Make me king as we move toward a New World Order , a normal life is boring. But superstardom's close to post-mortem.
and there is a global globally focused transnational uh click of terrorist organizations that are trying to uh disrupt the world order to change the political relationship between uh the world's Islamic community the um and the rest of human society trying to bring down the power of various states in the
the world order or the rules-based order, we're talking about what? Well, Henry Kissinger suggested that world order rests on two pillars. One is a set of rules which people accept or at least are willing to live with. And the
contributed questions. And let me read some of the highest-rated ones. The first one, in your excellent world order book, you seem to portray nationalism as an invented concept, which outlived its usefulness. Would you agree with this assessment? If so, do you -- what would replace nationalism, in your view?
your own whether it's uh George Soros or Bill Gates or Richard Branson these are all people who look well beyond just the bottom line of the firm they realize that companies are very much a part of providing World Order providing what we call public goods except the word public goods doesn't really make sense anymore because the word public goods the term connotes that there is something
political system, um, the one that was built after 1945, some people call it the liberal world order , I don't really like that term because it sounds kind of
well that by challenging Ukraine, by invading Ukraine, they were defying this liberal world order . They were defying
Recently, I watched on YouTube a phenomenal debate you had about a year ago with Fareed Zakaria at the Munk Debates on the end of the liberal world order , which was
If the scenario played out as you say as you said, that's not because they're a growing power and they think they need to change the world order .
something that really bothers you now. And he said write about what problem bothers you the most. And so I concluded what bothers me most is -- it's sort of grandiloquently called world order . It arises the following way, in response to your question, Eric. What we consider the international system,
portrayed as a series of w-, unrelated one-off events when, in fact, they are systemic features of the internation-or-of the international community or of the world order . Systematically
Well, we've got to come up with something for it, because, you know, this is the new world order .
biosphere is achieved at last. And that, I believe, will create the foundation for the new world order as well as the sustainable, livable future for all generations to come.