How to pronounce “treading water” in English

But they're like, even surviving and treading water right now right in your business is a win.

down to zero you've got interest only loans which are the Treading Water loans you're not making any progress but

There was a one mile swim, jumping off of a 15-foot tower, treading water for an hour, an open ocean swim, a parachute

It's like everyone just looked at, here I am, just treading water, failing.

They're just treading water with inflation.