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all of a sudden it occurs to some of us, many of us, maybe all of us, hey, I can be perverse. And
so it wasn't shaped directly by evolution, but it's more of a sort of individual discovery that we all make. One of the forces behind perversity that I find particularly interesting is what I
call hopeful monster theory. And hopeful monster is a phrase um used to explain an evolutionary theory by this guy a long time ago named Goldmid. And Goldman understood that the logic of natural
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