I'm not being, I'm being quite serious about that. But maybe not in the way you might think. Space flight to me, it's nice. We're going to go somewhere eventually so we got a place to go when the Earth's when we can't live here anymore. That might be a billion yearsfrom now. So there's no big rush. But it's going to happen. There's a genetic drive in us that says, "We're going to go into space regardless." And we may go through cycles
credit people like Eric Anderson who's the president of space adventures who kind of put a call the business together and even in the years when there was no space flight possible managed to keep the thing afloat and glow and growing and you know space adventures is now you know has it hasgrown year on year after 10 years and we've now put six people into space which nothing no one else has ever done
We have people who work in the Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory, a big swimming pool. for the space flight mission directly are just working remotely-- just like most of the other people in the world right
But all those things are good. And so human space flight and robotic space flight are really very different tools.
but what it's taught me is that you know I can be a part of a small team of people that changes the way the world thinks about space flight and having spaceship one hanging there or hanging in the air and space museum the real one next to the Spirit of St Louis empowered us all to think okay what what else can
We used to call it manned space flight , but we don't do that anymore. We call it human space flight versus robotic space flight . And how do we experience this?
different than atmospheric flight. You've got an atmosphere to maneuver against to slow you down. I'm wondering if the reactions that you learned as an atmospheric pilot today are they applicable to space flight today? Are they a possibly even a hindrance. Worden: Interesting question. The difference between flying an airplane and flying a spacecraft is when you're flying an airplane you're always going forward, hopefully. And when you fly
go in 22 seconds. So this is a very long-winded, rambling way of saying that everything gets simulated in the most entertaining ways. Let's see, they also do--the psychological elements of long duration space flight are a little easier and cheaper to simulate. Basically you put people in a box for a while and you watch them and you see, give them difficult stressful situations and you put in people of different gender and culture and you see how they don't get along and fist fights break out and people claim sexual harassment so,
of spaces. This is the first control space made for the North American Air Defense Command, immortalized in War Games if you remember. This is the second. And this was the proposal for the space that was fundamentally based on it that was to be constructed in Houston for the manned space flight center, a space that we now know as Mission Control. In Mission Control all the variables of space flight , all the vast amount of information were all brought into one single architectural space and all the decisions incumbent upon
There is a school of thought based on research around these attributes. In the context of a space flight , are there attributes or characteristics, leadership or otherwise, that you feel that women bring to the table that are uniquely helpful and complementary in that particular environment?
At the same time, I mean, there is the infrastructure that is needed for the booming economy, for the booming market of the digital economy. And I think this human space flight is also an opportunity that will open new horizons.
I just like to repeat the question so they got on the audio so just training for the space flight how did you train okay we trained for the space flight we had our own simulator and it was a very rudimentary simulator and you spent I spent a lot of time in it I'd get there early in the morning and make 10 flights of what the next test card said we would
Your words, not mine. And then we would like the human space flight people to focus on sending people to Mars.
We have a lot of discussions about human missions. We used to call it manned space flight , but we don't do that anymore. We call it human space flight versus robotic space flight .
Because it was an interesting story about where it came from. Ames was looking at ways to make space flight less expensive. That's one of the scourges of spaceflight is it's so expensive that it's an incredibly high entrance barrier.
But there's rain that appears. And the primary payload was the Goddard Space Flight Center, go.
the biggest problem that we've got to face if we really do long-term flights. I think the technology will come along. I think we'll be able to handle that. But I think the psychological and the physiological side of long-term space flight is going to be the thing that we're going to have to really face up to. In two weeks not enough happens to you. It's not really a problem. But if we go for three years, like going to Mars, that's going to be a problem.
for the space that was fundamentally based on it that was to be constructed in Houston for the manned space flight center, a space that we now know as Mission Control. In Mission Control all the variables of space flight , all the vast amount of information were all brought into one single architectural space and all the decisions incumbent upon this vast infrastructure were also projected from that space. In fact this vast web of control and connection only broke down in the Apollo program two times. The first, of
energy um how much time do we have well I'm almost out of time well I'll end and I'm also against the man space flight program um I think it's a waste
step further and you began taking model rocketry that you did as a kid and figuring out that you could take a disposable video camera and put it inside of the rocket and film your own space flight , or not quite space flight , but you know what I mean. We also see, and this is one of those issues of making a radar detector from a Hot Wheels toy. It's just how we're taking - in fact, we have a lot of consumer technology
We have people who work in the Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory, a big swimming pool. When you first get back from a long-duration space flight , it's kind of challenging initially,
They're supersonic. They're Air Force trainers. But NASA uses them for astronaut-- we call it Space Flight Readiness Training. So especially astronauts who aren't pilots, who they weren't military pilots for their day job before they came to NASA, they ride in the back seat.
So recently our team at NASA Ames in collaboration with Goddard Space Flight Center and the APL laboratories
to telecommunication, human space flight , and Earth observation, which is the domain I'm heading at the European Space Agency.
American astronautical sociey orway award for sustained excellence in space flight history in the category of
And the idea is that in these extreme environments like space flight , people have been forced to use robotics for 30 or 40 years because, in many cases,
We flew it twice on Endeavour, and it was just a lot of fun. Really, the focus of space flight is on the flight systems.
This is a full-size model out of Goddard Space Flight Center.
So what does it take today to actually operate a human space flight mission?
of fact, the first Cosmonauts flown in space some of them weren't even pilots. If you're familiar at all with the Russian space program there was a gal who flew early in the program. Her name was Valentina Tereshkova and her qualification for making that space flight is that she was the best parachutist in her club. Because back in those days, they had to bail out at 10,000 feet down on their way down otherwise they're going to crash into the
out electric components. That's not a good thing. Now, I maintain this is why we send people into space is to solve these kinds of problems. We are never going to have -- the one thing I found out about making a space flight is that the problem you're going to have in flight is something you never thought about before flight; always going to be something different than you had figured out. Well, that ball of soup floating around was one of them. You know you can't touch it with a spoon because the minute you
We have people who work in the Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory, a big swimming pool. You don't get to necessarily pick your crew when you're flying on a space flight , and so you have to have the skill set
But all those things are good. So you said weigh in on the merits of robotic spaceflight versus human space flight Right.
But all those things are good. I don't know anybody in this time that would say you need human space flight to do weather satellites and communications satellites
But all those things are good. And I also happen to be the board chair of the Commercial Space Flight Federation, which is the industry federation that Blue Origin and SpaceX and everybody else
Now, it has to be shipped to Johnson Space Flight Center.
same it just looks exactly like the real thing it's not a scale model it's not a smaller airplane or a bigger airplant it's exactly the same any other questions yes how did you train for space flight did you get cooperation from governments that had that experience or no um Peter said the rules let me just repeat can I just make
Then we go on to Bill Farrell who is at the Goddard Space Flight Center.
OK, the group at the Goddard Space Flight Center, led by Bill Farrell, this is called the Dream Two Team.
the deep sea, but also space flight , military robotics, aviation, and surgery.
cooperation from governments that had that experience or no um Peter said the rules let me just repeat can I just make I just like to repeat the question so they got on the audio so just training for the space flight how did you train okay we trained for the space flight we had our own simulator and it was a very rudimentary simulator and you spent I
But there's a lot of other parts of NASA. Obviously, the biggest centers for robotic missions are JPL and Goddard Space Flight Center. We've sort of focused at Ames on small things, cheap things, which is good in this fiscal environment.
how leaders at Caltech and leaders at MIT and leaders at the National Science Foundation were all going on record against human space flight .
'cause they spoke where they needed to speak. And President Kennedy funded the Human Space Flight Program. But so, the advertising was convening this cultural ideology.
here's another take I came across when I visited the mve Spaceport where the commercial space flight industry is
even my philanthropy a lot of it is related to the same category you know where the Challenger Center which was going to be was an offshoot of the Challenger accident which was going to be the teacher in space flight June Scobee the wife of commander dick Scobee was actually my high school science teacher since all my neighbors r astronauts back then and all the community was a schnapps and their
On the right, that's actually a real image, a real photograph, a real image taken at Goddard Space Flight Center on April 24, 2017.
You're talking like a walking pace, which is very, very unusual for space flight .
And one of the reasons we want to do it is we trust ourselves to choose the right investments that NASA cares about for space flight and space
He led the near-Earth object mission concept studies for NASA, directly supported President Obama's 2009 human space flight review, and was part of the human space