In the end, I got my answer, but only after I found myself in the middle of the greatest race the world would never see -- the ultimate fighting competition of foot races, an underground showdown , pitting some of the best ultra distance runners of our time against the best ultra runners of all time, in the 50-mile race on hidden trails only Tarahumara feet had evertouched. And it all because, in January of 2001, I asked my doctor this, "How come my foot hurts?"
It gets to the point where, as Hopper tells it, it's the second year of his studio contract, it's 1957, he has this spectacular showdown with his director, Henry Hathaway, on the set of this B-Western called "From Hell to Texas." And, as Hopper puts it, 86 times, the director's telling him, no, I want you to do it this way.
this one man wearing a black robe and a massive sword and he's twirling it around and showing them look at this. And it was like a big showdown . And Harrison Ford standing on one side, he's standing on the other side. Everyone's gathered around to watch this big fight happen now. And then Harrison Ford at that moment, the music starts to change.
And the Israelis won't make concessions because they think it's just the prelude to a showdown . Some of that exists today in a different form.
And you could see how that show changed over the course of the first season, where it had a very kind of procedural-- you know, they pitched it to FX initially as there was a showdown of the week. And then, I think, over the course of that first season, if you watched that show, you watch it go from a showdown of the week
It was all over the papers. The media called it perhaps the largest boardroom cross-continental showdown in recent history. And it was affecting everyone.
I'm going to do it this way. And it just keeps going in this epic showdown that Hopper inevitably loses. Because he's not quite James Dean, in terms of his star power, how people project him.
I mean, dozens and dozens and dozens of lawyers, arbitration suits, it was all over the papers. I think the "Financial Times" called it perhaps the biggest cross-continental boardroom showdown in recent history. And it was not just affecting the immediate parties, but their families, 150,000 employees of the company.
And he also hosts the podcast "Leadership Next," where he interviews a range of CEOs. You might know Alan from one of his earlier books, "Showdown at Gucci Gulch" or "Revolt in the Boardroom." But we're here today to talk about his new book, "Tomorrow's Capitalists-- My Search for the Soul of Business." It's a fascinating read and I want to make sure we get to lots of audience questions.
And every single day, there is something in the news that evokes the idea of the O.K. Corral. It may be something totally unrelated, something like a congressional showdown , or an NBA game, or a teachers' union fight. I remember seeing that one.
fighting off these swordsmen um and all these bandits trying to get away and he's got his satchel with him and he's got his whip with him and he's whipping them everywhere. And then all of a sudden he gets to the uh the end of the bazaar and there's a showdown with this one man wearing a black robe and a massive sword and he's twirling it around and showing them look at this.
they pitched it to FX initially as there was a showdown of the week. And then, I think, over the course of that first season, if you watched that show, you watch it go from a showdown of the week to something that ends up being much more serialized.