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less religious than the rest of the world?John Micklethwait: I do generally -- I don't want to sound like a free market fundamentalist -- but I do think it a lot of it had to do with that basic idea there is an establishedchurch. There is one -- if you sit and read Trollop, and you just see a church which was obsessed by trying to climb up the different levels.

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,John Micklethwait: In terms of -- the stuff to do in terms of Turkey and India was just sort of anecdotal. If you look at the people, it's the bureaucratic

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,John Micklethwait: Islam, I think the numbers are more questionable.

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,John Micklethwait: Well, I suppose, yeah. I do have one observation which has to do with foreign policies. I think, I am personally always keen on religious,

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,John Micklethwait: I think Dawkins is interesting. Any time I talk to Dawkins about it, he's obsessed by the big, scientific pictures. But actually, he's -- the idea that the sort

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,John Micklethwait: I think that's a choice you have to make.

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,John Micklethwait: Google as a religion is interesting.

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,John Micklethwait: There's two. I think the exorcism in Brazil was fairly nonBrazilian -- was a fairly extraordinary experience.

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,John Micklethwait: Well, the truth is, some of them are sects to the extent that they drag you in and they never really allow you out.

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,John Micklethwait: Thank you.

I am pleased to welcome two authors in front of us who are here to discuss their book, "The Fourth Revolution, The Global Race to Reinvent the State."On my far right is John Micklethwait, who is currently the editor in chief of "The Economist."Which one of you, in their 19th year, 20th year, took a road trip across the-- that was you?

And above all, actually, you see Islam. Islam is -- I don't buy any of those sort of Eurabia theories from the neocons -- but the basic idea is, Islam is posing questions,policy? John Micklethwait: I wouldn't agree. There was some American conservative meeting the other night in London where people seemed to think this was a great hope for China.

who are going out looking at the reasons why religion actually seems to work or does quite well. And you have weird experiments where you putnuns and Buddhist monks into MRI machines -- not at the same time -- John Micklethwait: -- to measure what their brains are doing when they listen, when they'repraying. You have people looking at -- vast number of economists looking at -- why religious communities seem to work as an organization,