How to pronounce “measuring poverty” in English

And how can you argue with that? But yet, that was not the debate that we were seeing ... was this polar opposite of aid ... and it was also this very monolithic view of poverty:that we were just measuring poverty at the country level and then asking whether aid flows reduces poverty. And it was a very frustrating set of research to try to absorb and figureout what to do with. And the revolution which started taking place in the mid-1990s in development economics was to say, "Well, let's stop this debate from the ivory tower, from these large