And she comes up with very clever ways to make food when you don't have a kitchen. The cave a manger is kind of a new concept for me and Americans. Is this something new for the Parisians as well, or has this been a long standing type of wine shop?
How did your view of cooking it and eating it change? So if you're on garde-manger with a cook, and you're like, well, why do you do that?
All we know are basically the same four things we know about Lincoln but in this case the four things are come from the east, there's three of them, they stop at Herod's they go from Herod's to a manger in Bethlehem with gold, frankincense, and myrrh pay their respects on their way never to be heard from again. Now that's, that to me is there's a lot of room there to mess with that.
So when she found this space in, I think it was 2012, she could imagine a wine shop there. And that's why it's called a cave a manger . It's a wine shop for eating because you can stay and have a glass of wine, as long as you have a little plate of food.
When I arrived in New York and I was my own executive sous-chef-- executive sous-chef job-- Thomas Keller was my chef de partie in the poisson. Alfred Portale was chef garde manger , which is from Gotham Bar and Grill in New York. Billy Yosses, the pastry chef of the White House was my garde manger as well.
And I would say this iteration of what La Buvette is a pretty new idea, and it's something that I hope just spreads. I mean, I want cave a mangers all over the place. They're just really great things when you don't want to necessarily dedicate to a whole meal at an establishment.
It's actually-- I don't know how long it's been happening. I mean, I'm sure there's versions of cave a manger that have gone by for hundreds of years, but this specific type of a cave a manger is a relatively new thing.
Or what is that? And now there's some much blurring of the definitive terms of what a cave a manger is. But the definition really is a wine shop for eating.
in the poisson. Alfred Portale was chef garde manger , which is from Gotham Bar and Grill in New York. Billy Yosses, the pastry chef of the White House was my garde manger as well. And we had all kinds of rock stars of the moment.
And now the joke is, I'd be going around Paris, and I'd ask Camille. I'd say, OK, so is that a cave a manger , or is that a restaurant, or is that a bar? Or what is that?
Les deux font bien leur boulot ensemble. devient un outil d'auto-destruction. On va se tailler les veines, on va manger à n'en plus finir, on va vraiment l'abandonner.
Donc ça c'était déjà problématique. En plus de ça, elles rentraient trop tard le soir et culturellement, les femmes rentrent tard, elles ne font pas à manger et donc elles se font virer de la maison par leurs maris, chose complètement...
And the old witch, you know, loses her temper, realizes that someone has been getting in, and that Rapunzel is having a baby. So when you say, one swallow never makes a summer, or, a dog in the manger , or many other proverbial phrases that
It was very terrifying at Chartreuse, not, for one, having just-- you can't get three guys in a line. That's unheard of. When you're feeding over 1,000 people a week with two guys on the line, and then, obviously, the garde manger and stuff like that. It was very terrifying.