Joel: And I would suggest -- and I know I'm speaking into the heart of our electronic, plugged in, techno-glitzy world and so I'm doing a dance with you here and I'm not a Luddite and I love technology.I love microchip, electric fencing and energizers, UV stabilized, you know, canvasses and nursery
I think the question-- this is not an anti-technology conversation for me. This is not a Luddite conversation. This is a question around the alignment of the incentives at scale between the technology that we create and the general public.
And I-- if I were using all the technology, I will show you these design ideas for like giant seawalls that would go where the Verrazzano Bridge is now. I'm not a Luddite , but I've also been to the Facebook campus.
I spend most of my time on them. This is not a Luddite talking. I'm not protesting against the use of computers as though they are heartless.
When NASA thought through, very carefully, everything that could possibly go wrong when you put three astronauts on top of this 100-meter tall rocket full of highly explosive fuel, that wasn't Luddite scaremongering. What they were doing was precisely what ultimately led to the success of the mission.
And also really combating this idea of the Lone Ranger type of entrepreneur in favor of more collaborative entrepreneurship, which you see more in Luddite communities and Amish communities. And for me personally, the alter ego gave me the ability to really deconstruct my own personality.
Daniel: OK. I would say being concerned about it, they're doing right. I'm not saying they're Luddites , but having a Luddite reaction against this I think is really just not gonna help. Drones are gonna happen. Automation's gonna happen. There's a confluence of things here. There's the processing power, memory, just the material. The price point has gone down so much and given it so much
So that's the promise. But he's a Luddite when it comes to technology.
Yeah. I really, to me, sleep is like the most precious commodity. I'm a total Luddite . I'm there with my quill pen and I see them with laptops, but to help
And nowadays we use the term Luddite to mean people who have an ideological opposition to technology. But the original Luddites were just people who didn't want to lose their jobs. They were perfectly all right when people were losing their jobs spinning a generation earlier, because that benefited them.
city, we want good jobs back like we've had before, like farming jobs, fishing jobs, manufacturing jobs, would your argument be, well, that would effectively be like the Luddites were trying to do, hanging onto jobs that will no longer exist? Or would your argument be you need to invest in those other kind of jobs as well?
And then what Travis has done at Laika, his vision for Laika, is to try to take this group of people, which he likes to describe as Luddites and futurists, and have them share more than a parking lot. Have them share a whole studio.
So this is where we get the Luddites . And nowadays we use the term Luddite to mean people who have an ideological opposition to technology. But the original Luddites were just people who didn't want to lose their jobs.
They might sound small, but they are actually very important for the well-being of staff. So you can't be a Luddite and work in medicine.
Some people say, nah, don't talk about this because it's just Luddite scaremongering when you talk about things that could go wrong. I don't think it's Luddite scaremongering. I think it's safety engineering.
And the question is-- this is not the first time when we have had this kind of upset and worry about technology. This is an etching about the Luddite rebellion. Now one of the things I learned that many of you may not know is that Ned Ludd did not actually exist.
It's about "demand." Simply saying, we deserve rent control, that we deserve more fairness, that we deserve a city that everybody can live in, And so I'm not being a Luddite .
And her father was a Luddite .
He was a bit of a Luddite .
which is really insulting. So this is where we get the Luddites . And nowadays we use the term Luddite to mean people who have an ideological opposition to technology.
They may have used the political rights to bring the spread of the tractor to a halt. And in the case of the Luddites was essentially hopeless, right? Because in the 19th century Britain, property ownership was still a requirement for voting.
Now one of the things I learned that many of you may not know is that Ned Ludd did not actually exist. He was not the leader of the Luddites . He was a mythical figure that this particular revolution, in 1811, 1812, cited.
Everybody's heard about the Luddites and how bad they were because they went around breaking machines.
I am not standing before you as a Luddite .
There are people who just like make me look like a luddite .
But now the whole globe, through internet commerce, is a large market. And I think that's your points about the Luddites .
And they frequently rioted against the mechanized factory. Some of you will have heard about the Luddites riots, but they were only part of a long wave of riots that spread across continental Europe, Britain, and even China. And how did the British government respond to those riots?
I'll start by saying that I'm the worst kind of Luddite , in that I'm really, really poorly informed.
And then there's this farmer guy-- he's a bit of a Luddite -- going, what the hell is that.
On the other hand, he was not a Luddite .
Well, I'm not a luddite , but I'm getting better.
so in a sense I think it's unfair to call them Luddites , but they're very much kind of more traditionalists when it comes to books, so could you talk a little bit about working
far longer than the first bit. And so I'm probably a hideous Luddite , but I'm less scared than a lot of people. I think you're going to end up with a lot of work that looks the same.
I guess you could read your book and then become kind of just a hard-line kind of Luddite .
And you are, by no means, a Luddite .
So I think it's a really fascinating example of not primacy of-- it's not the Luddite no technology, and it's not the primacy of techie-only solutions,
And people thought, oh, you old Luddite .
That's ridiculous. I'm sure you guys are saying "you old Luddite " all the time here at Google.
Her father, Lord Byron, was a Luddite , and I don't mean that figuratively.
I still read physical books, but that's just because I'm kind of a Luddite .
against Napster, but it's not like he was a Luddite .
They don't have that little agenda book, which I use-- 'cause I'm still a Luddite -- or a little a little PDA that you can go into your calendar to see what's happening that day.
had questions about for one reason or another small items she might already have dealt with if Susana were not such a Luddite who refused to own a computer. Because she was however
input from the people involved? Like I'm thinking about the Luddites .
Yeah, I mean, I think the Luddites are the classic ex- example and they are a good one, you know, um when like when
China, all over the world, um including the Luddites , including some of the the 20th century automation. And his primary
Very few people say, who was out there to give the Luddites a different job when their hand crafted looms were going
It was almost exactly 200 years ago this year-- actually, it was-- that the Luddites started smashing the looms in the machines in England
And for us, it's not because we're Luddites , but it's really because we're working on some really deep foundational issues of is a child literate?
you outline that might involve going with the grain of history, or kind of working with-- I definitely do not want to come off as a Luddite .