was raised kind of in the atmosphere of all of this and even back then people conflated the revolution itself with the hostage crisis as just one story. It all is spoken in one breath. But in fact the revolution was in February of 1979 and the hostage crisis didn't break out until November. So what was happening in the meantime? Well, one of the things
efficient and uh to ensure that the old vested interests are not holding Ukraine hostage. Now it's important to understand that uh furtherov's um experience comes from a successful digital transport transformation in public affairs right he set up the system of uh digital governance that was
Well, I really hammered them. Hostage takers and kidnappers are crazy.
You know what I'm saying? Hostage situations. We all know what those are. Yeah. But like, I love that Jane has like-- she stepped it up with an amazing band.
hostage crisis as just one story. It all is spoken in one breath. But in fact the revolution was in February of 1979 and the hostage crisis didn't break out until November. So what was happening in the meantime? Well, one of the things was the Americans were warning the new Iranian regime about threats from the
And it was like the weakest possible, trying to like rouse people back to a sense of like passion, he completely failed. And, you know, we had the, you know, the hostages in, you know, Iran for I think 440 days. And every night on the nightly news, it was, you know, lines around the block, energy crisis, depression, inflation.
longer invisible. It It A lot of people died. 1,200 people died. 250 people taken hostage. It was a knock to the psyche. But as with many such incidents, you know, among nations, it does bring to the fore an extremist nationalist
like the polar explorers were doing geographically 100 years ago. The hostage negotiator must get 100% of what they need, and the hostage taker must get 100% of what they need.
like the polar explorers were doing geographically 100 years ago. The hostage negotiator, all hostages out, the hostage taker to be listened to, recognized, acknowledged.
So the point is that that was a bitter way to have a second myth exploded as a captive. American hostage policy does not keep us safe in the way that we think it does. The pirates knew I was American, they targeted me on purpose, and then they held out for money in spite of what I considered
But when I was in Somalia and I had time to think about it, I had this feeling of having slipped back in time. But hostages in those days, in the 17th and 18th centuries, were considered sort of lost souls, people who had dropped out of Christian society, maybe turned Turk, which is the very sort of offensive term for converting to Islam.
And immediately after the revolution, they took over the American embassy in Iran. The hostages were taken. So there was an incredibly strong anti-American sentiment.
Well, I really hammered them. A hostage taker, if he's upset, is just more of himself or herself.
Well, I really hammered them. So hostage negotiation is a set of tools and skills that can deal with people in very intense emotions.
If I'm an attorney, I can sway a jury. I can make a jury pick a certain decision. If I'm a hostage negotiator, I save people's lives. If I'm a parent, I raise better kids because I I can communicate in a way that gets the outcome that I'm looking for from another person.
Yeah, that's that's preying on your worst fears and insecurities as a prospective parent and it's kind of holding parents hostage to a moral logic that pretends to be giving them more autonomy, but actually it's robbing you of autonomy because it's saying you must do this kind of testing on your child.
media video? Here's a clip. Democracy cannot be held hostage by Russia. We must find a lawful, safe, and realistic mechanism that would allow Ukraine to restore a fully functioning democratic process even under conditions
It's really good. It's written by the Black Swan Group or something. It was about a hostage negotiator. And I read that book and it changed my life.
We want something else. He was holding us hostage. It was a beautiful leveraged move by him.
And that will be the rest of us. And we become corporate hostages, trapped by all the positives, trapped by the benefits, the equity, even the fear of having a limited amount of time on the CV.
So that was one of my first impressions of life as a hostage. The first two other hostages I met were two poor African fishermen captured near their home and hauled back to Somalia and held for the staggering sum of $20 million by pirates who pretended to be oppressed by industrial fishing boats.
They killed nine Somali guards and rescued the two hostages safely. The two hostages were Jessica Buchanan and Poul Thisted, an American and a Dane, and they were working for a demining NGO. And they-- I mean, I've met Jessica in the meantime-- really good people.
So in other words, Christian ships came down and sacked Muslim towns on what we now call the Moroccan coast and took hostages absolutely for religious reasons. The religious motive was the same in both directions.
I'm not sure where he thought he was going to go. People considered hostages in those days to be somehow compromised because-- and it's the same now-- they're a little bit unfortunate, but also a little bit morally suspect because they've fallen into the hands of the enemy.
increasing number of hostages that were given by the defeated peoples that needed to be somewhere.
Whether the hostages are mistreated or tortured, live or die, they could care less.
We got taken hostage for six days in a war.
- He was taken hostage.
Holding you hostage. Desperate.
they actually were hostages not prisoners, since none of them had committed any crimes, by Iran in January,
Well, I really hammered them. But I'm a hostage negotiator.
We were hostage before because the standard American diet-- we were told when I was growing up, the US department of agriculture had
So you're a hostage to that one company.
You're a hostage. It's bound in the system.
resolution if the hostage negotiators weren't sincerely able to suspend judgment and try to understand what a hostage-taker is motivated by.
You're a total hostage to him?
They took police officers hostage, and they engaged in a variety of violent activity.
bankruptcy, and force them out the hard way and and hurt them in doing that. So that's what they were trying to do. That obviously the government held the hostages and kept the thing going. So, they bear responsibility for that. But the point being that America had been
is that they were effectively hostages, and the Ukrainians knew, this is my estimation of the terrain,
We agreed on an exchange of hostages, an all-for-all exchange.
three Americans that they were holding hostage. This is what President Trump does. And again, it's very easy for Democrats to sit here in America and
first and foremost get all the hostages home. First and foremost.
over having held the entire theatre hostage and interrupting Jeremy, interrupting Joaquina and not really getting them to speak.
He looked more like a hostage than a defendant.
Because it clearly couldn't be the company. And the more we become the hostage because we have to have a denial about what is happening to us, we come to love our abuser in the corporate form of Stockholm syndrome where we come to say that we love our work.
and also on what happened to me in Somalia. So I was captured and held hostage by pirates in central Somalia for over 2 and 1/2 years. And by the time I got out, I didn't think I was going to see my family and friends again.
There was a sort of low-burning jihad involved in these ships that sailed off from North Africa to capture Christian ships in the Mediterranean and take the people back as hostages, and that war absolutely went in two directions. So in other words, Christian ships came down and sacked Muslim towns on what we now call the Moroccan coast
He flew me to Mogadishu. I'd rather be a hostage under a cautious president than a reckless one.
Well, a lot of people tell me going silent on them bothers them too, so-- I just interpreted it wrong. You started your negotiation career in hostage negotiation. Is that correct? Well, I started it actually when I was about three trying to-- I was going to say-- --get out of trouble with my parents.
She says, no. Go away. Everybody wants to be a hostage negotiator. Everybody wants to do it.