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Well, I'm talking about philanthropy that is grant-making philanthropy. And if you're a grant maker, you need to look for a grantee. So maybe what Ferdinand and Isabella had inmind was Horatio Nelson, a great--since I'm playing with history, you know, a great leader of a great organization, the British Navy. For better or worse, they endedup with Columbus as their grantee. So you have a goal, you have a general approach at
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