Joan Feigenbaum , we have some sort of theoretical crypto kind of people, people who do sort of bigger thinking, and a whole bunch of scrappy activists.
Eran Feigenbaum : For those of you who know Kevin, he needs no introduction.
Eran Feigenbaum : So I mean how does one become the world's most famous computer hacker?
Eran Feigenbaum : You were quite, quite the prankster anyhow.
Eran Feigenbaum : So tell us like the McDonald's story, I mean.
Eran Feigenbaum : You think?
Eran Feigenbaum : But earlier on, right, you got caught even for, for some of those hacks, right?
Eran Feigenbaum : What kind of hot water did you get into?
Eran Feigenbaum : But other than the final big arrest, you, you've had several run ins with the law.
Eran Feigenbaum : Did they take any donuts?
Eran Feigenbaum : So when, when did you start using that knowledge?
Eran Feigenbaum : And one of the first identities that you picked was Erik Weisz.
Eran Feigenbaum : So let's fast forward to actually getting caught.
Eran Feigenbaum : What was ultimately the demise that got you caught?
Eran Feigenbaum : So you were hacking from prison?
Eran Feigenbaum : Let's talk a little bit about, you know, finally getting out, the Free Kevin Movement.
Eran Feigenbaum : 'Cause you hacked in many jurisdictions?
Eran Feigenbaum : Not only not being able to tell your story for seven years, you also had some other restrictions as part of your release.
Eran Feigenbaum : One last one and then Kevin Mitnick: Ok.
Eran Feigenbaum : we'll open up to questions.
Eran Feigenbaum : So do you still have this deep passion today?
Eran Feigenbaum : One last question.
Eran Feigenbaum : Hey, Kevin, I think we're gonna broadcast this, so maybe just parting thoughts Kevin Mitnick: Oh, yeah, we're recorded.
Eran Feigenbaum : It's been inspiring hackers or security researchers, for somebody that's been there, done that, been behind bars.
Eran Feigenbaum : Check out the book.
Eran Feigenbaum : Thank you.
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John McCarthy and Ed Feigenbaum and others were founders of artificial intelligence.
I put-->>Eran Feigenbaum : Do we see the irony there?
And there was this book Eran Feigenbaum : Keep an eye on him.
Eran Feigenbaum : You had your other-- Kevin Mitnick: Mine was electronics, you know.
Eran Feigenbaum : But in reading the book, earlier on you also took interest in creating false identities, almost like you knew what was coming on.
Eran Feigenbaum : Kevin Mitnick: Ok.
Eran Feigenbaum : That wasn't the only myth that was made about you, right?
Eran Feigenbaum : Great.
Eran Feigenbaum : Switch your clients to Chrome OS or Chrome?
We decided we're gonna take some manuals out, copy them, and return them, but since it was so late at night Eran Feigenbaum : Return them to the dumpster?