How to pronounce “cornelius vanderbilt” in English

But I do feel like things are less weird in the-- part of the reason this story was such big news is people don't do shit like this anymore.If you heard that Cornelius Vanderbilt sued a media outlet for embarrassing him, you'd be like, OK, that's what they did back then.But it's much stranger, I think, that this happened in-- the verdict came down in 2016.