from where those attacks are emanating. He's not a bleeding heart . Um he's a he's a military tough guy. Is that is that a fair description? This is a man of his institution.
And so even in our world of academia where, if anything, we're stereotyped as being-- you know how we're stereotyped, like being bleeding heart liberals-- we were seeing what I have to assume was mostly unconscious bias. There very well is probably some conscious in there as well, but I think there was at least some unconscious bias at work.
You're all going to bring lots of people to see it. But she doesn't have such a bleeding heart as her husband and her ex-husband. She finds it much harder to communicate, to work out what she's feeling.
He was making a fine living at watching these couples' relationships deteriorate. It wasn't without the bleeding heart of his beautiful, wonderful wife, Dr. Julie Schwartz Gottman, that really got him interested in taking this data and turning it into something that real couples could hold onto.
And she said, you apologize all the time. And how you sort of combated that being someone who has a bit of a bleeding heart and is more empathetic.
I just recognized immediately, Hamish has two daughters as well. This guy has just an open, bleeding heart full of love for his child. And that was relatable.
So you guys, there's mutations that happen natural-- I mean, every time you try to make a copy, there's going to be a change. We're all a bunch of progressive, bleeding heart , liberal, crazy people-- but remind you guys that when you invest in space exploration especially,
characters on the show well but Kevin always said I mean Kevin started writing Frank who who you would you'd say oh I he must be a conservative but Kevin wrote I'm I'm grateful to say this this bleeding heart side of Frank that maybe you can comment on I think he I and and and foret the phrase that comes to mind
When writing this kind of thing, especially, because I was approached really because Jill-- this editor at Penguin-- because Jill really liked this voice that I had, which is really one of social conservativism, which you can be socially conservative even if you're a bleeding heart liberal, I promise. Like, here I am.
That was my story, as well. So yeah. But back to the-- I guess the sort of conservatism, the idea of being sort of conservative while also a bleeding heart liberal. You mentioned modesty earlier.