I'm gonna give you one of the most depressing quotes, which is deeply true. Roger Ailes , who is a genius, shout out to "The Loudest Voice in the Room" by Gabriel Sherman, that book changed my life too, because it really made me understand media.
Because very often, especially when there's an issue that people have a lot of strong opinions and passions around, some of the interpersonal conflict So Aileen Lee, who founded Cowboy VC, told me a story about being in a meeting.
Because very often, especially when there's an issue that people have a lot of strong opinions and passions around, some of the interpersonal conflict leaving Aileen kind of dangling off by herself.
Because very often, especially when there's an issue that people have a lot of strong opinions and passions around, some of the interpersonal conflict And Aileen had the skills that was going to win her team the deal.
And this psychiatrist had just moved, and this was her specialization. So Aileen Murtagh out in Willow Grove. So we were diagnosed.
Let's work. And-- OK. Alvin Ailey's "Cry", it's a very historic, it was a tribute to his mother.
Because very often, especially when there's an issue that people have a lot of strong opinions and passions around, some of the interpersonal conflict He liked Aileen. And he didn't like seeing her get ignored, so he wanted to be fair to her.
And I got my dance degree there at Tisch School of the Arts. I danced at Ailey 2, which is the second company for the Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater, for a couple of years. And then during my kind of freelance period, I went to the first audition for the company and didn't get the job.
Let's work. And-- OK. I attended The Ailey School's Fordham University college program, which is a four year degree program.
Do you guys know who this? This is Roger Ailes . He recently got kicked out of Fox News.
He gave us the space shuttle. He pulled Roger Ailes out of obscurity in 1968, the founder of Fox News, and made him his media director. He sort of founded the hyper-scripted, symbiotic relationship between the Republican
See one of the things I think media has a lot to answer for is what I call the Al Jazeera, Roger Ailes theory of media which is, I'm not sure which one learned from the other, I think Ailes learned from Al Jazeera, "If you tell 'em what they wanna hear they're gonna come back tomorrow." So in Al Jazeera's case it included telling the truth because their competitors were these inert state broadcasters who were basically propaganda mills.
And that's the -- more or less the bipartisan consensus. Because they got Roger Ailes at Fox news who was Nixon's image maker.
inert state broadcasters who were basically propaganda mills. In Fox News' case Roger Ailes , because he's a fellow traveler of this segment of the audience, felt that there's 38 percent of the American public who can't stand the liberal media; 38 percent's worth it, that's an advertising budget right there, let's talk to them.
Because very often, especially when there's an issue that people have a lot of strong opinions and passions around, some of the interpersonal conflict He did that because he wanted to be fair to Aileen.
So it's really magical to see them do these short films and a subject matter like suicide, and bullying, and really deep subjects And she was actually-- she took me to see Alvin Ailey.
So what happened to my brother Thomas, who now we call T? T grew up to be a ballet dancer for Alvin Ailey Dance Theater. And he used to say when he came into the house, after he was long out of the house and doing the ballet,
Because very often, especially when there's an issue that people have a lot of strong opinions and passions around, some of the interpersonal conflict And the first guy came in and sat across from the guy-- both of Aileen's colleagues were men-- from the guy to Aileen's left.
Donc là, on n’est pas en train de parler au producteur, on est en train de parler au bas de la chaine, on va dire. On voudrait quand même mettre des voiles, des ailes rigides, des ailes qui sont mises sur le cargo.
Mm-hmm. I would have been like, tell me all the stories. I also studied a lot of it, being in Miami and Ailey, which is probably, I think, a question for later.
Mm-hmm. I would have been like, tell me all the stories. And he was a Martha Graham principal dancer, Alvin Ailey.
Mm-hmm. I would have been like, tell me all the stories. And then two years ago in the summer, I studied at Ailey School.
Yeah. So I know you can't discuss the specifics of your time at Fox. But can you take us a little bit inside your state of mind when you filed the lawsuit against Roger Ailes , who we should remember was the most powerful man in media.
people knew this was going on for years and it didn't stop. I mean, to me as a reporter who covered Ailes 's downfall, am always shocked that this behavior could have gone on with such high profile people, and no one said, wait a minute, this isn't right.
That's where the focus of my reporting-- a lot of it has been on the systems and the power that allowed this behavior to go on. And at Fox, a lot of it was a system that Ailes set up to silence victims through legal settlements, out of court settlements, NDAs, which we've talked about.
And she told me the night before her interview that she needed to transfer money, basically take all of her life savings and move it to a different bank account because she was so terrified that Roger Ailes or Fox News would come after her after her interview with me.
Anyway, so that's that part. But they have sure been fooled by Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and Fox News and Roger Ailes -- I'm not even sure how much peace he should rest in--
into men's scrotums, it would cure basically whatever ailed them.
Roger, the Fox guy, Roger Ailes , what happened at UC Berkeley.
Because very often, especially when there's an issue that people have a lot of strong opinions and passions around, some of the interpersonal conflict And eventually her colleagues stood up, and he said, I think Aileen and I should switch seats.
honor their thoughts, and honor the things that they imagine, it's important so that when we take our kids to Africa, and they see that experience, and they experience other kids-- and we take them to see Alvin Ailey. And we take them to Cedars Sinai, which is a hospital where they can see brain surgery that Dr.
So it's really magical to see them do these short films and a subject matter like suicide, and bullying, and really deep subjects So when I got ready to do the program, I went out and bought 25 tickets to Alvin Ailey.
So if you think about what that means, the algorithm, if you've trained on a lot of historical data, what it will do is given a new set get that job as often, but when they did get the job, they were systematically pushed out by Roger Ailes and the entire culture there.
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day on the thought that this would encourage you to come back next day. See one of the things I think media has a lot to answer for is what I call the Al Jazeera, Roger Ailes theory of media which is, I'm not sure which one learned from the other, I think Ailes learned from Al Jazeera, "If you tell 'em what they wanna hear they're gonna come back tomorrow." So in Al Jazeera's case it included telling the truth because their competitors were these